I am baffled why people are going "oh no what is to be done" about openai breaking into a competitors computers, when it is incredibly obvious: Charge them under the CFAA.
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I am baffled why people are going "oh no what is to be done" about openai breaking into a competitors computers, when it is incredibly obvious: Charge them under the CFAA. "Oh but their research". Sandbox it from the Internet. "Oh it's too hard to do that". Skill issue, get good.
As I said: Weird that Robert Morris got charged for all of the computers his worm broke into. After all, he didn't do it, the computer program did it, that's completely different, apparently. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_worm
@swearyanthony If their story is true, that's a crime. If their story is a lie--it most certainly is baldfaced lie--that's a crime.
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"oh they should have known to run it sandboxed". Sounds like pretty shit, untrustworthy software when you put it like that. I mean, we've been running java applets downloaded from the Internet in sandboxes for what, 30 years? But that's because it's an obvious attack vector. You're saying this trillion dollar industry of the future produces stuff of a similar quality as we sandboxed against in the 1990s.
@swearyanthony they did run it sandboxed. It found a 0day and broke out of the sandbox.
(This is not an argument against them facing criminal accountability: quite the reverse)
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@swearyanthony they did run it sandboxed. It found a 0day and broke out of the sandbox.
(This is not an argument against them facing criminal accountability: quite the reverse)
@pozorvlak yes as I said elsewhere in the thread - them not being willing to ensure it was properly sandboxed is a "them" problem.
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@pozorvlak yes as I said elsewhere in the thread - them not being willing to ensure it was properly sandboxed is a "them" problem.
@pozorvlak why wasn't there monitoring? If it was for some reason impossible to do even *that*, why wasn't the project stopped for a rethink.
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@pozorvlak why wasn't there monitoring? If it was for some reason impossible to do even *that*, why wasn't the project stopped for a rethink.
@swearyanthony It wasn't stopped because they didn't know the attack was coming from them until after it was over, and they didn't expect anything like this to happen. Did they need better sandboxing and monitoring? Sure. But it's going to be increasingly difficult to defend against AIs as they become more capable, and ultimately I don't think they shouldn't be doing this kind of gain-of-function research at all. Criminal penalties might help focus their minds.
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