Do you think you are neurodivergent?
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To my neurodiverse associates, and to my neurotypical associates as well, I wish mostly that we could stop causing each other pain.
"Normal" isn't actually a thing.
In high-dimensional spaces, there really is no "average". That's mathematical, not polemical.
But it's polemical, too.
MORE SLACK. SEND MORE SLACK.
This life is hard as fuck, and everyone around you is doing the best they can to manage it.
@GeePawHill this is good advice
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@GeePawHill I have a hard time with this question.
I got super traumatized as a kid, and it did affect me. I'm also an intp. But I'm also an empath, which was really handy as a nurse and person taking care of animals.
Every autistic person thinks I'm autistic. I'm very clumsy socially, but like I said, I had a super traumatic childhood.
It's hard to pull apart
@deepmud Wellllll, I think that's a yes. But I'm glad you shared.
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Do you think you are neurodivergent?
This is not a question about diagnosis. If you think you are, the answer is yes.
As always, please boost.
@GeePawHill
Well, I never had an ADHD diagno… LOOK! A SQUIRREL! -
@GeePawHill Huge +1 for saying "normal isn't actually a thing". The reason for my "no" answer is simple: I don't think neurotypes exist in the same way Judith Butler doesn't think genders exist; which is to way, they're a reduction of the actual person that forces valuation of traits on Cartesian axes, which results in an intractible situation that brings you out to infinite axes and still no closer to apprehension of the preson. In other words, the quantitative judgment of a trait being more or less present is already a mistake in first principles, that is, there are as many types as there are individuals.
What exists is truly qualities and events, and these qualities and events when interacting across and within people form a directed graph of sorts, which is not a quantity and no subgraph which is a quantity is a complete representation of a person. The seeming quantifiable traits are, at least in my mind, caused by schizmogenesis and a tendency for people to mimic each other in order to form groups that make them feel less alone. I see this all the time in in-groups, and things are invented constantly so we can all say "we're alike!" But this is the reaction to alienation, it doesn't bring us any closer to understanding each other or ourselves.
In my mind the universal properties that commute across all these structures are pain and exaltation. We laugh and cry when we recognize these things alone, because they commute. At least in my observation, I have met many people who everyone swore up and down were totally unreachable, couldn't get any better from any therapy or any advice or even any material support or addiction treatment, nothing, but what actually did start to make a difference was empathy and mercy.
A suffering soul is like a skeptic, made (traumatized!) by way of a betrayal, waiting for formal proof that the structures in them have a universal property that commutes across someone else before they declare it worthwhile to try. The only way to prove that is to strip away every single label and encounter them naked with no titles, deeds, diagnoses, masks, acts, or pretenses, a mere being. When you get down to the bottom of it, they're not made of a list of labels or a panel of switches. They're the center of a tangled knot of qualified attachments and harms.
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Do you think you are neurodivergent?
This is not a question about diagnosis. If you think you are, the answer is yes.
As always, please boost.
@GeePawHill y'all getting a diagnosis is important. It will help y'all take steps to make whatever you have your superpower. Being neurodivergent just means you are wired different and hence will have strengths and weaknesses.
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To my neurodiverse associates, and to my neurotypical associates as well, I wish mostly that we could stop causing each other pain.
"Normal" isn't actually a thing.
In high-dimensional spaces, there really is no "average". That's mathematical, not polemical.
But it's polemical, too.
MORE SLACK. SEND MORE SLACK.
This life is hard as fuck, and everyone around you is doing the best they can to manage it.
@GeePawHill I have found that complex PTSD in my case mimics some autism and ADHD traits.
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Do you think you are neurodivergent?
This is not a question about diagnosis. If you think you are, the answer is yes.
As always, please boost.
@GeePawHill none of your business
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My perpetual bad/good/weird trait is that I'm subconsciously inconsistent at everything, even my tastes, preferences, where I sleep, what I eat. There's no pattern to anything. Chaos and variety reign supreme in my life. A new song is always better than an old one, a new soap is better than the last, a different color, left not right, side streets not the highway,... Why? It just is. Maybe I wanna see what happens. I crave it, tossing a wrench into everything.
My 'usual', is chaos.
Same but maybe not as much. I'll pretty much always take the novel over the mundane, because why wouldn't you? Life is too be lived. I'm not sure that's what makes me ADHD (but the other things though most likely do).
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I am.
*Definitely* I am.
I don't fit in any of the usual categories, tbh.
I am not autistic. I am not ADHD.
I have stripes of OCD, but they don't, like, they don't quite add up to a diagnosis.
@GeePawHill
Does this still hold true on DSM-5/ICD-11? They vastly expanded diagnosis options. Things that traditionally didn't add ip to a diagnosis now might. -
@GeePawHill
Does this still hold true on DSM-5/ICD-11? They vastly expanded diagnosis options. Things that traditionally didn't add ip to a diagnosis now might.@GeePawHill
If that's something you're interested in -
@GeePawHill
If that's something you're interested in@cmw DSM-V is not really a rig I quite trust.
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@cmw DSM-V is not really a rig I quite trust.
@cmw The old terminology wrt depression I thought was pretty good, actually.
"Situational" vs "clinical".
As happens, I know a lot about depression, and my reaction to the new version was, well, I'm not a specialist or a pro, but, in my view, it was sketchy.
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@cmw DSM-V is not really a rig I quite trust.
@GeePawHill
Oh, yeah, very different topic, trust in the system.
Same for ICD. -11 improved some things around mental health here in EU, or will have in another decade, when its finally properly rolled out. Under -10 I wouldn't have gotten my adhd diagnosis for example, as my flavor is less physically expressive. DSM-V helped there, to provide a basis -
@GeePawHill
Oh, yeah, very different topic, trust in the system.
Same for ICD. -11 improved some things around mental health here in EU, or will have in another decade, when its finally properly rolled out. Under -10 I wouldn't have gotten my adhd diagnosis for example, as my flavor is less physically expressive. DSM-V helped there, to provide a basis@cmw Even now, tho, it's shot through with Cartesian dualism that *nobody* serious believes in.
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