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  • alex_p_roe@mastodon.worldA alex_p_roe@mastodon.world

    @hpod16 @FediTips And look into something called a translation API - it’ll enable users to translate posts into their own language. I can get virtually everything translated into English.

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    @alex_p_roe @FediTips
    I've seen some posts in my feed that offer the option to "translate with DeepL"
    Could that be what you mean?

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    • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

      @alex_p_roe @FediTips
      I've seen some posts in my feed that offer the option to "translate with DeepL"
      Could that be what you mean?

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      @hpod16 @FediTips Not sure. And I access Mastodon via the paid version of the Mona app. Have attached a screenshot with translation icon highlighted in yellow - you may have to view the image full size to see it.

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      • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

        @alex_p_roe @FediTips
        I've seen some posts in my feed that offer the option to "translate with DeepL"
        Could that be what you mean?

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        #243

        @hpod16 DeepL is an AI powered translation service - it can probably be selected as the default translator for a Mastodon instance @FediTips will know more 🙂

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        • alex_p_roe@mastodon.worldA alex_p_roe@mastodon.world

          @hpod16 @FediTips Not sure. And I access Mastodon via the paid version of the Mona app. Have attached a screenshot with translation icon highlighted in yellow - you may have to view the image full size to see it.

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          #244

          @alex_p_roe @FediTips
          Thanks for the screenshot!
          Something else to look into 🙂
          Europeans are proud of our many languages, but I have to say not every community manager in the EU social teams can speak all 24 EU languages. 😉 Machine translation like this can come in real handy. 💜

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          • alex_p_roe@mastodon.worldA alex_p_roe@mastodon.world

            @hpod16 DeepL is an AI powered translation service - it can probably be selected as the default translator for a Mastodon instance @FediTips will know more 🙂

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            #245

            @alex_p_roe @FediTips
            DeepL is probably my favourite machine translation service, also, it's European!

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            • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

              @alex_p_roe @FediTips
              Thanks for the screenshot!
              Something else to look into 🙂
              Europeans are proud of our many languages, but I have to say not every community manager in the EU social teams can speak all 24 EU languages. 😉 Machine translation like this can come in real handy. 💜

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              #246

              @hpod16 @FediTips No worries. It is a little unreasonable to expect people to know 24 different languages! Machine translation - especially LLM based - is now very effective and useful.

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              • alex_p_roe@mastodon.worldA alex_p_roe@mastodon.world

                @hpod16 @FediTips No worries. It is a little unreasonable to expect people to know 24 different languages! Machine translation - especially LLM based - is now very effective and useful.

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                #247

                @alex_p_roe @FediTips
                Yeah.
                We use machine translation to help us understand what people are commenting.
                But we never publish anything written or translated by AI. We do have colleagues in every EU Member State who can communicated in the respective languages

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                • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                  @alex_p_roe @FediTips
                  DeepL is probably my favourite machine translation service, also, it's European!

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                  #248

                  @hpod16 @FediTips Well, as those of us in Europe are beginning to understand, Europe would be wise to rely on European tech - both hard and software. I’ve been trying to reduce my use of US tech and have a little but it’s not easy.

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                  • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                    @alex_p_roe @FediTips
                    Yeah.
                    We use machine translation to help us understand what people are commenting.
                    But we never publish anything written or translated by AI. We do have colleagues in every EU Member State who can communicated in the respective languages

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                    #249

                    @hpod16 @FediTips The trick with AI, and all translation really, is to have a native speaker approve the translation before making it public. AI saves time and the LLMs (not technically AI) can do context sensitive translations, reduce or increase formality levels, or even make texts more persuasive. Very clever stuff 🙂 PS I used to some translation work but it has dried up!

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                    • alex_p_roe@mastodon.worldA alex_p_roe@mastodon.world

                      @hpod16 @FediTips The trick with AI, and all translation really, is to have a native speaker approve the translation before making it public. AI saves time and the LLMs (not technically AI) can do context sensitive translations, reduce or increase formality levels, or even make texts more persuasive. Very clever stuff 🙂 PS I used to some translation work but it has dried up!

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                      #250

                      @hpod16 @FediTips Re comments, you can translate it to understand it and then respond in your own language. To avoid lost in translation issues, it’s a good idea to keep language simple and to avoid the use of idioms. Not easy and some training might help. The benefit would be fewer misunderstandings 🙂

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                      • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                        @Bastianoso I'm still pretty salty about what happened to it.
                        It's an awful place now.

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                        #251

                        @hpod16 @Bastianoso There are quite a lot of places and protocols on the internet that can lead to cool places happening.

                        I guess in the end it's not so much about Mastodon or the fediverse being good, but just about getting elected officials, institutions and companies to start using it. They shouldn't need to replace what they're already using, they can just complement it (although if they're using TSNFKAT, one might come up with questions regarding the kind of content provided by their bot as a service, and in that case, leaving one of the previously used services could be quite positive...).

                        Somebody could even come up with something not-quite-mastodon for such use cases, and it could still be integrated in the fediverse and allow a lot of interactions, I guess it doesn't even need to be Mastodon for they to get connected.

                        And that visibility is probably key to wider adoption. It doesn't help that there are elected officials or public entities which choose to only use commercial, proprietary services to interact with users/voters/..., but adopting something on the fediverse will also add to the visibility of the fediverse, besides increasing their own reachability.

                        We're even in an age where having a readable web page with a news section or a contact e-mail address is getting less common.

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                        • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                          @dalcacer I have to admit this is my second attempt at Mastodon. Or third.
                          The first two times I found it too discouraging and gave up.
                          I think these days we expect things online to come to us very easily, and we are equally as easily discouraged

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                          #252

                          @hpod16 @dalcacer Mastodon is a higher barrier for me to clear currently, I need to either write a client myself or start using something that is light and either runs outside of a web browser or is compatible with more than just a few browsers. Sadly, Mastodon upstream not only requires JS, it's also using features that greatly restrict the amount of browsers one can use.

                          (Now a good thing here are the open specifications, meaning that like IRC, USENET and e-mail, one's not tied to some client, my usual example of this is pointing Microsoft Comic Chat, I think that client illustrates the idea of a significantly different interface built on top of an open protocol. I do like this aspect, but it might be less relevant to attract more users globally;... but it should be quite relevant and important for elected officials and EU institutions, of course, just like you'd not publish official documents only in proprietary formats.)

                          The thing is: the content makes it worth it. So even if it's currently more difficult, I try to have a look at Mastodon, in spite of that.

                          In another account I follow a bunch of hashtags and I end up having a lot of interesting content (sadly, sometimes overwhelming, I'm eagerly waiting for the ability to put hashtags in lists).

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                          • gagagoogle@mastodon.socialG gagagoogle@mastodon.social

                            @BrennpunktUA @hpod16 @Mastodon "I'm pretty sure, is aware of potential abuse."

                            I think your'e right. But I'll try to dig a bit deeper here, below the "Mastodon is friendlier"-posts that broadcasts from time to time.

                            Since it's easy to build your house with straw (and cheaper), the huffing and puffing wolf is just a tale. Right now it's so cosy and friendly here in our little hut.

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                            @gagagoogle I think we generally should raise awareness. A platform can't protect your data, if you don't follow some basic rules (which people coming from e.g. Instagram are not used to).

                            @hpod16 @Mastodon

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                            • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                              Here's my first Mastodon post!
                              My mission out here? To understand and promote Mastodon, the only large European social media platform (to my knowledge).
                              How can we make more Europeans come to the Fediverse?

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                              @hpod16 is it european?

                              what do i know, im just around, stumbling across stuff... the usual...

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                              • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                Here's my first Mastodon post!
                                My mission out here? To understand and promote Mastodon, the only large European social media platform (to my knowledge).
                                How can we make more Europeans come to the Fediverse?

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                                @hpod16 welcome 😀

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                                • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                  Here's my first Mastodon post!
                                  My mission out here? To understand and promote Mastodon, the only large European social media platform (to my knowledge).
                                  How can we make more Europeans come to the Fediverse?

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                                  @hpod16 Welcome!

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                                  • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                    Here's my first Mastodon post!
                                    My mission out here? To understand and promote Mastodon, the only large European social media platform (to my knowledge).
                                    How can we make more Europeans come to the Fediverse?

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                                    #257

                                    @hpod16 Hi, great to see you here

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                                    • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                      Here's my first Mastodon post!
                                      My mission out here? To understand and promote Mastodon, the only large European social media platform (to my knowledge).
                                      How can we make more Europeans come to the Fediverse?

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                                      #258

                                      @hpod16 The monthly digital independence day is currently a DACH thing. But it can become european!

                                      https://termine.di.day/
                                      https://di.day/

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                                      • mherweg@chaos.socialM mherweg@chaos.social

                                        @hpod16 The monthly digital independence day is currently a DACH thing. But it can become european!

                                        https://termine.di.day/
                                        https://di.day/

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                                        @mherweg Ohhh, that's what DI day is! I've seen that around!

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                                        • hpod16@eupolicy.socialH hpod16@eupolicy.social

                                          @alex_p_roe @FediTips
                                          DeepL is probably my favourite machine translation service, also, it's European!

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                                          @hpod16

                                          I think it depends on your instance. In mine we are offered to use LibreTranslate.

                                          I didn't know DeepL, but it's a good looking option. Nevertheless, it's not free software, so you can find some day they deleted the free plan, or started forcing customers to give them any personal data they want.

                                          On the other hand, you can self-host your own LibreTranslate instance (it doesn't need as much resources as you could think for personal usage).

                                          @alex_p_roe @FediTips

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