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  3. So the US knew the location of the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka bc both the US and Iran were part of a military exercise hosted by India which the US pulled out of at the last minute, presumably so as to bomb the unarmed Iranian ship

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  • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

    So the US knew the location of the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka bc both the US and Iran were part of a military exercise hosted by India which the US pulled out of at the last minute, presumably so as to bomb the unarmed Iranian ship.
    The former Indian FM:

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    #52

    @AlisonCreekside
    Every day the US finds new ways of fucking over folks. And not infrequently also killing them.

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    • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

      So the US knew the location of the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka bc both the US and Iran were part of a military exercise hosted by India which the US pulled out of at the last minute, presumably so as to bomb the unarmed Iranian ship.
      The former Indian FM:

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      #53

      @AlisonCreekside
      You would think the commander of that submarine would be embarrassed.

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      • ytscorp@mstdn.socialY ytscorp@mstdn.social

        @huntingdon @AlisonCreekside
        What if the Commander refused to break the law? Fired? Worse? What position is this regime putting our military in?

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        #54

        @ytscorp @huntingdon @AlisonCreekside

        IANAL. Military penalties are harsh. Deliberately disobeying a *lawful* order in wartime potentially carries the death penalty. Even though it's not a lawful order, I'd be shocked if a skipper caught deliberately disobeying an order now wasn't arrested and tried for treason.

        Doesn't make it right. And it's not like they didn't sign on to put their lives at risk. But the personal cost of doing the right thing is fucking huge. And you don't get to command positions without having drunk the Kool-Aid, or pretending so skillfully, that you might as well have.

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        • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

          So the US knew the location of the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka bc both the US and Iran were part of a military exercise hosted by India which the US pulled out of at the last minute, presumably so as to bomb the unarmed Iranian ship.
          The former Indian FM:

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          #55

          @AlisonCreekside

          If India wants agency, autonomy, & sovereignty then India needs to switch to renewable energy.

          Ditch its fossil fuel overlords.

          The fossil fuel industry owns & operates the GOP and Trump uses energy as a club in his Shakedown Diplomacy.

          https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

          India get wind & solar programs running or be forever collateral damage of America's Middle East oil wars.

          Trump betrays allies with such regularity.

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          • fishercat@kolektiva.socialF fishercat@kolektiva.social

            @ytscorp @huntingdon @AlisonCreekside

            IANAL. Military penalties are harsh. Deliberately disobeying a *lawful* order in wartime potentially carries the death penalty. Even though it's not a lawful order, I'd be shocked if a skipper caught deliberately disobeying an order now wasn't arrested and tried for treason.

            Doesn't make it right. And it's not like they didn't sign on to put their lives at risk. But the personal cost of doing the right thing is fucking huge. And you don't get to command positions without having drunk the Kool-Aid, or pretending so skillfully, that you might as well have.

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            #56

            @Fishercat @huntingdon @AlisonCreekside
            It's sad that they are being put in this position. I see the ptsd this will all lead to and the lack of support they will receive because of funding cuts to the VA.

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            • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

              So the US knew the location of the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka bc both the US and Iran were part of a military exercise hosted by India which the US pulled out of at the last minute, presumably so as to bomb the unarmed Iranian ship.
              The former Indian FM:

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              #57

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              • ytscorp@mstdn.socialY ytscorp@mstdn.social

                @Fishercat @huntingdon @AlisonCreekside
                It's sad that they are being put in this position. I see the ptsd this will all lead to and the lack of support they will receive because of funding cuts to the VA.

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                #58

                @ytscorp @huntingdon @AlisonCreekside Yup.

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                • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

                  So the US knew the location of the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka bc both the US and Iran were part of a military exercise hosted by India which the US pulled out of at the last minute, presumably so as to bomb the unarmed Iranian ship.
                  The former Indian FM:

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                  #59

                  @AlisonCreekside Looking for a smarter way to earn online?
                  This complete system shows you how to build income step by step — even if you’re a beginner.
                  ✔ Easy to follow
                  ✔ No technical skills required
                  ✔ Limited time special price
                  📩 Message us for full details.

                  https://site-ylhjjre3i.godaddysites.com/

                  For more details :

                  https://www.facebook.com/share/1F1L47AFFe/

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                  • violetmadder@kolektiva.socialV violetmadder@kolektiva.social

                    @Hex @chu @AlisonCreekside @fname

                    (And don't forget the crime of just leaving any survivors to drown.)

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                    #60

                    @violetmadder @Hex @chu @AlisonCreekside @fname @miguelpergamon
                    Violates the first law of the sea, doesn't it?

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                    • jasper@mastodon.nlJ jasper@mastodon.nl

                      some random articles i found on it, so it's not just a screenshot.
                      📌https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/iris-dena-ship-sunk-by-us-submarine-torpedo-why-was-the-iranian-ship-in-the-indian-ocean/articleshow/129069474.cms
                      📌https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/iranian-warship-sunk-naval-drills-india-10564869/
                      📌https://www.firstpost.com/explainers/iran-war-torpedo-sinking-iris-dena-ship-india-backyard-13986307.html
                      @AlisonCreekside

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                      #61

                      @jasper @AlisonCreekside

                      Read a few paragraphs and was impressed that this article (Economic Times) offered some credible facts about the incident, but when confronted by both a firewall AND multiple layers of popups, I tend to be recalcitrant. So don't bother showing me the teaser paragraphs. You not only did not get a sale, you pretty much guaranteed that I will never buy from you.

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                      • fragarach@social.vivaldi.netF fragarach@social.vivaldi.net

                        @violetmadder @Hex @chu @AlisonCreekside @fname @miguelpergamon
                        Violates the first law of the sea, doesn't it?

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                        #62

                        @Fragarach @violetmadder @Hex @chu @AlisonCreekside @fname

                        I gather (from just stuff I've seen and read generally) that there's a kind of informal international club of submarine captains.
                        That guy is going to get chucked out of a social club that barely exists.

                        #AttachTheStoneOfShame

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                        • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

                          So the US knew the location of the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka bc both the US and Iran were part of a military exercise hosted by India which the US pulled out of at the last minute, presumably so as to bomb the unarmed Iranian ship.
                          The former Indian FM:

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                          #63

                          @AlisonCreekside

                          You just can't get more despicable than that.

                          Trump keeps finding a new bottom, that turns out not to be His bottom.

                          Vile, vile, vile.

                          This, this alone should result in the removal of Trump and Hegseth. If we have no mechanisms to achieve that, through our institutions, or due to those institutions having achieved the same lies (Mike Johnson), what are we to do?

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                          • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

                            So the US knew the location of the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka bc both the US and Iran were part of a military exercise hosted by India which the US pulled out of at the last minute, presumably so as to bomb the unarmed Iranian ship.
                            The former Indian FM:

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                            #64

                            @AlisonCreekside What a scumbag country the US is. It's reputation has been tipped down the sewer.

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                            • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

                              So the US knew the location of the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka bc both the US and Iran were part of a military exercise hosted by India which the US pulled out of at the last minute, presumably so as to bomb the unarmed Iranian ship.
                              The former Indian FM:

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                              #65

                              @AlisonCreekside It's ever worse then I thought it was.

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                              • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

                                So the US knew the location of the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka bc both the US and Iran were part of a military exercise hosted by India which the US pulled out of at the last minute, presumably so as to bomb the unarmed Iranian ship.
                                The former Indian FM:

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                                #66

                                @AlisonCreekside Speechless.

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                                • chu@climatejustice.socialC chu@climatejustice.social

                                  @AlisonCreekside @fname

                                  How is this not a crime? They are admitting to murder.

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                                  #67

                                  @chu @AlisonCreekside @fname Just like bombing schools and hospitals ... also crimes.

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                                  • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

                                    So the US knew the location of the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka bc both the US and Iran were part of a military exercise hosted by India which the US pulled out of at the last minute, presumably so as to bomb the unarmed Iranian ship.
                                    The former Indian FM:

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                                    @AlisonCreekside In wartime it is lawful to attack enemy ships even if they are defenseless, but you must first declare war to give them fair notice that their ships may be attacked without warning. But we haven’t done that. Only congress has the constitutional authority to declare war.

                                    Every unprovoked attack on Iran is a war crime, including the school we bombed and the attack that killed the Iranian leadership.

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                                    • alisoncreekside@mstdn.caA alisoncreekside@mstdn.ca

                                      So the US knew the location of the Iranian ship off Sri Lanka bc both the US and Iran were part of a military exercise hosted by India which the US pulled out of at the last minute, presumably so as to bomb the unarmed Iranian ship.
                                      The former Indian FM:

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                                      #69

                                      @AlisonCreekside the issue for India is how to have sufficient influence to respond to this insult. India does have some strategic advantage particularly in the area of software. The European nations are very aware of how dependent they are on US software; how software often requires a massive user base to become available at economic scale. The strong connections india, it large talented English speaking population and the fact it is not China give it unique advantages. Slowly but surely.

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