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  • gooba42@mastodon.socialG gooba42@mastodon.social

    @zzt I'm starting to see more of the benefit of microkernels as time goes on.

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    @gooba42 @zzt Was just thinking, how is Gnu Hurd doing these days...

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    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

      “it’s just a tool and the future and you’re an SJW for not wanting it” torvalds screamed over the sound of rsync, a previously very stable C codebase that lots of infrastructure relies on, melting into vibed slop that can’t reliably do anything anymore

      it’s fucking wild to see another foundational project break so hard a bunch of dependencies either dumped it or stayed on an old version and go “oh me too” and implement the exact same “tool” and development processes built around that “tool” and not see the train about to hit you when your releases start to look exactly like that other project’s releases

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      @zzt wait, what about rsync? rsync isn't stable anymore?
      /me goes to research rsync…

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      • bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        @mxchara @vy @zzt I don't deny some areas remain a dumpster fire, but the incremental progress at hops C++11, C++17, C++23 and C++26 has been pretty solid. There are specific texts for dealing with assimilating the key features quickly, aimed at veterans, starting with Strostrup's "A Tour of C++".

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        #86

        @bms @mxchara @vy @zzt is there a C++ equivalent to Crockford's "JavaScript: The Good Parts"?

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        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

          and again I’ll point out how fucking quick this shit is happening

          torvalds posts a defense of AI slop in the kernel with a right-wing conspiracy theory as the reason

          a bunch of other open source projects just go “well the kernel says it’s ok so we’re doing slop now”

          barely a couple of weeks later the kernel is changing its release cadence and quality standards entirely and the man in charge is shrugging and literally going “what can you do”

          you can cut the crap, asshole. it’s your literal job to cut the crap.

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          @zzt what a crazy timeline.

          OK, do I need to reformat all my machines to some BSD now?

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            #88

            @dannyman @zzt that's entirely besides the point made here, isn't it?

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            • fluidlogic@oldbytes.spaceF fluidlogic@oldbytes.space

              @bms @mxchara @vy @zzt is there a C++ equivalent to Crockford's "JavaScript: The Good Parts"?

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              @fluidlogic @mxchara @vy @zzt I'm not familiar with this text, and rarely if ever touch JavaScript (at least since I did experiments with callbacks from Java applets in the late 90s when Netscape Communicator got released). I might recommend "Embracing Modern C++ Safely" by Lakos et al. https://www.informit.com/store/embracing-modern-c-plus-plus-safely-9780137380350

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              • bms@mastodon.bsd.cafeB bms@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                @fluidlogic @mxchara @vy @zzt I'm not familiar with this text, and rarely if ever touch JavaScript (at least since I did experiments with callbacks from Java applets in the late 90s when Netscape Communicator got released). I might recommend "Embracing Modern C++ Safely" by Lakos et al. https://www.informit.com/store/embracing-modern-c-plus-plus-safely-9780137380350

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                @bms Thank you! that looks exactly like what I was looking for!

                Embracing Modern C++ Safely shows you how to make effective use of the new and enhanced language features of modern C++ without falling victim to their potential pitfalls.

                Based on their years of experience with large, mission-critical projects, four leading C++ authorities divide C++11/14 language features into three categories: Safe, Conditionally Safe, and Unsafe. Safe features offer compelling value, are easy to use productively, and are relatively difficult to misuse. Conditionally safe features offer significant value but come with risks that require significant expertise and familiarity before use. Unsafe features have an especially poor risk/reward ratio, are easy to misuse, and are beneficial in only the most specialized circumstances.

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                • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                  and again I’ll point out how fucking quick this shit is happening

                  torvalds posts a defense of AI slop in the kernel with a right-wing conspiracy theory as the reason

                  a bunch of other open source projects just go “well the kernel says it’s ok so we’re doing slop now”

                  barely a couple of weeks later the kernel is changing its release cadence and quality standards entirely and the man in charge is shrugging and literally going “what can you do”

                  you can cut the crap, asshole. it’s your literal job to cut the crap.

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                  #91

                  @zzt

                  the kernel is changing its release cadence and quality standards entirely

                  do tell?

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                  • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                    you know, assuming software engineering wasn’t just a lie we told ourselves:

                    in software engineering, unintentionally changing release cadence and having a ton more shit than you planned in each release is a sign that something is direly wrong with how your project is being run

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                    @zzt oh but “nothing looks particularly scary” each rc so it must be fine surely

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                    • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                      “nothing that can be done about this” says guy who caused this and derogatorily called anyone who doesn’t like it an SJW

                      https://www.theregister.com/os-platforms/2026/08/10/linus-torvalds-says-ai-has-made-huge-linux-kernel-updates-the-new-normal/5285268

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                      #93

                      @zzt your threads on this topic are envirogating to read please keep it up. much excitement to be built for how this all will be biting them in the ass as the sloprot progresses

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