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  3. As an analogue to my "local businesses, nonprofits, and community groups please use RSS instead of exclusively posting to Instagram" rant, please consider "please if you have an event calendar, make it a ***calendar*** and not an image on Instagram."

As an analogue to my "local businesses, nonprofits, and community groups please use RSS instead of exclusively posting to Instagram" rant, please consider "please if you have an event calendar, make it a ***calendar*** and not an image on Instagram."

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  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

    I am begging people, please just make *websites*. Not Instagram feeds, not X posts, not Squarespace slop, not e-mail newsletters, *websites*.

    You know, those things that I can view without needing an account, a specialized app, shittons of spyware, etc.

    (Yes, this is too salty, sorry.)

    whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @xgranade seems like a normal amount of salt

    earlier this morning i was talking at my screen about how the app developers should be filleted like a fish. that was probably too much (in fairness it was uber)

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    • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

      I am begging people, please just make *websites*. Not Instagram feeds, not X posts, not Squarespace slop, not e-mail newsletters, *websites*.

      You know, those things that I can view without needing an account, a specialized app, shittons of spyware, etc.

      (Yes, this is too salty, sorry.)

      flyingpenguin@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @xgranade agreed! I just made this website and it has felt far more rewarding than any quick thing.

      https://echtorff.org

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      • niccolo@mastodon.onlineN niccolo@mastodon.online

        @xgranade agree with everything but "newsletters" or even better RSS is an excellent way to stay in touch with people without needing social media.

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        #12

        @niccolo RSS is a great thing to have on a website! It doesn't take setting up e-mail or gathering a lot of PII from readers that's then a liability for when something leaks!

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        • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

          @niccolo RSS is a great thing to have on a website! It doesn't take setting up e-mail or gathering a lot of PII from readers that's then a liability for when something leaks!

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          #13

          @xgranade sure, but I'll take a newsletter over any form of social media ANY day!

          But as a matter of principle, I agree.

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          • niccolo@mastodon.onlineN niccolo@mastodon.online

            @xgranade sure, but I'll take a newsletter over any form of social media ANY day!

            But as a matter of principle, I agree.

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            #14

            @niccolo That's fair, yeah. I personally find it a little annoying that newsletters became the norm, given that e-mail really works best as an interpersonal thing and not for broadcast, but still. Definitely splitting hairs at that point.

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              @xgranade seems like a normal amount of salt

              earlier this morning i was talking at my screen about how the app developers should be filleted like a fish. that was probably too much (in fairness it was uber)

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              #15

              @whitequark An excess of salt aimed at Uber doesn't seem all that excessive, no.

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              • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                @niccolo That's fair, yeah. I personally find it a little annoying that newsletters became the norm, given that e-mail really works best as an interpersonal thing and not for broadcast, but still. Definitely splitting hairs at that point.

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                #16

                @xgranade in my bubble, everyone is on social media and basically nobody uses newsletters. I wish it was the norm to complain about it and push people towards RSS! 🤣❤️

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                • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                  As an analogue to my "local businesses, nonprofits, and community groups please use RSS instead of exclusively posting to Instagram" rant, please consider "please if you have an event calendar, make it a ***calendar*** and not an image on Instagram."

                  jwz@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #17

                  @xgranade As a part of my due diligence as "owner of a nightclub" one of the questions I often ask is, "what are other venues up to these days?" In order to answer that question, I wanted to assemble a calendar listing with all of the events happening at my town's other venues with capacities of our size or smaller.

                  Surely they all provide ICS or RSS feeds. Surely.

                  Ho ho ho, I had to write 2k+ lines of code, with custom scrapers for 112 web sites.

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                  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                    I am begging people, please just make *websites*. Not Instagram feeds, not X posts, not Squarespace slop, not e-mail newsletters, *websites*.

                    You know, those things that I can view without needing an account, a specialized app, shittons of spyware, etc.

                    (Yes, this is too salty, sorry.)

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                    #18

                    @xgranade

                    We have a project website. No accounts. No commenting. No cookies. No GDPR-relevant data storage. Soon a special RSS feed.

                    _Exactly_ because of this tendency towards apps, newsletters, feeds (or maybe because I was WWW-socialised in late 1993...).

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                    • knud@mastodon.socialK knud@mastodon.social

                      @xgranade

                      We have a project website. No accounts. No commenting. No cookies. No GDPR-relevant data storage. Soon a special RSS feed.

                      _Exactly_ because of this tendency towards apps, newsletters, feeds (or maybe because I was WWW-socialised in late 1993...).

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                      #19

                      @xgranade

                      At https://www.euclid-ec.org

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                      • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                        @k Ideally!

                        k@chaos.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #20

                        @xgranade Ha. And I thought I’m the outlier.

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                        • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                          @lobingera I don't really agree; so much of what I see is people bending over backwards working around whatever patterns some corporate middle manager thinks is good for engagement.

                          There's a lot of invisible effort that goes into making corporate social media do anything even remotely useful as an outreach tool.

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                          #21

                          @xgranade

                          Hard agree, having done stuff in a research group doing routine insta posts. It's a grind, with few tangible results and the ever present risk of being stuck at a nazi bar. An institution hosted blog would have been /would be far better - for both comms reach and building a useful institutional record.

                          @lobingera

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                          • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                            I am begging people, please just make *websites*. Not Instagram feeds, not X posts, not Squarespace slop, not e-mail newsletters, *websites*.

                            You know, those things that I can view without needing an account, a specialized app, shittons of spyware, etc.

                            (Yes, this is too salty, sorry.)

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                            #22

                            @xgranade Too salty? Needs a dash more, in fact: Don't just make websites, but use plain, static HTML if possible. Pages that load fast and can be restyled on the client, without all the framework bloat.

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                            • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                              I am begging people, please just make *websites*. Not Instagram feeds, not X posts, not Squarespace slop, not e-mail newsletters, *websites*.

                              You know, those things that I can view without needing an account, a specialized app, shittons of spyware, etc.

                              (Yes, this is too salty, sorry.)

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                              #23

                              @xgranade Maybe even without cookies and especially cookie banners (you can make websites without cookies which require acceptance, just use functional ones and no others. If you need them at all.)

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                              • k@chaos.socialK k@chaos.social

                                @xgranade This is just salty enough.

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                                #24

                                @k @xgranade Agree. Could be saltier (saltier) too, IMHO.

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                                • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                                  I am begging people, please just make *websites*. Not Instagram feeds, not X posts, not Squarespace slop, not e-mail newsletters, *websites*.

                                  You know, those things that I can view without needing an account, a specialized app, shittons of spyware, etc.

                                  (Yes, this is too salty, sorry.)

                                  swggrkllr3rd@mastodon.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #25

                                  @xgranade We're GOOD, Cass.

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                                  • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                                    @lobingera I don't really agree; so much of what I see is people bending over backwards working around whatever patterns some corporate middle manager thinks is good for engagement.

                                    There's a lot of invisible effort that goes into making corporate social media do anything even remotely useful as an outreach tool.

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                                    #26

                                    @xgranade Agree, my reaction was to the boosted comment and i was missing the start of the thread ...

                                    ... from around here (i'm loosely connected to research projects) the expectation is to have public info "visible" in "established social media" and this is an (imho) result of "search engines have degraded ..."

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                                    • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                                      I am begging people, please just make *websites*. Not Instagram feeds, not X posts, not Squarespace slop, not e-mail newsletters, *websites*.

                                      You know, those things that I can view without needing an account, a specialized app, shittons of spyware, etc.

                                      (Yes, this is too salty, sorry.)

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                                      #27

                                      @xgranade Done. All statically generated with no cookies and no JS too.

                                      https://www.buschnick.net/

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                                      • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                                        I am begging people, please just make *websites*. Not Instagram feeds, not X posts, not Squarespace slop, not e-mail newsletters, *websites*.

                                        You know, those things that I can view without needing an account, a specialized app, shittons of spyware, etc.

                                        (Yes, this is too salty, sorry.)

                                        mamalake@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #28

                                        @xgranade I have zero tech experience, what’s the best way to just make a website?

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                                        • xgranade@wandering.shopX xgranade@wandering.shop

                                          I am begging people, please just make *websites*. Not Instagram feeds, not X posts, not Squarespace slop, not e-mail newsletters, *websites*.

                                          You know, those things that I can view without needing an account, a specialized app, shittons of spyware, etc.

                                          (Yes, this is too salty, sorry.)

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                                          #29

                                          @xgranade squarespace is at least resulting in a website. Probably one that is prettier than functional, but at least it is a website that is not behind a login wall.

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