I'd love to see more joy in conversations about leaving Big Tech.
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@lykkebrammer Yes, all of these! The fact that I still haven't received a single spam mail since I switched to Tuta exactly 11 months ago still astonishes me. I had always assumed that mail spam was inevitable
And as you say, the joy of no noise pollution on Mastodon, where you have full control of your own feed - oh yes!
@CiaraNi @lykkebrammer How much spam you get is mostly a matter of how old your address is and how aggresively your provider filters.
The latter is really a balance.
The spam problem is really not a case of your provider enshitifying their own service.
Mail is shit due to an obsolete trust model, not active enshitification.
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@lykkebrammer Yes, all of these! The fact that I still haven't received a single spam mail since I switched to Tuta exactly 11 months ago still astonishes me. I had always assumed that mail spam was inevitable
And as you say, the joy of no noise pollution on Mastodon, where you have full control of your own feed - oh yes!
@CiaraNi When I first arrived here it was completely empty... But after my first post, first # and first follower it got better.
I love it here - as you say: I'm in control of my feed.
That's really the way it should be.
I've also met some really nice people here - everyone is just so friendly and happy to share advise and their own journeys.
I'm not missing any of the products I used before.
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@CiaraNi @lykkebrammer How much spam you get is mostly a matter of how old your address is and how aggresively your provider filters.
The latter is really a balance.
The spam problem is really not a case of your provider enshitifying their own service.
Mail is shit due to an obsolete trust model, not active enshitification.
@pmakholm @lykkebrammer I don't know how it works, but whatever the reason, I am delighted that when I moved from Outlook mail to Tuta mail, the spam immediately and literally stopped.
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@CiaraNi When I first arrived here it was completely empty... But after my first post, first # and first follower it got better.
I love it here - as you say: I'm in control of my feed.
That's really the way it should be.
I've also met some really nice people here - everyone is just so friendly and happy to share advise and their own journeys.
I'm not missing any of the products I used before.
@lykkebrammer Same here.
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@pmakholm @lykkebrammer I don't know how it works, but whatever the reason, I am delighted that when I moved from Outlook mail to Tuta mail, the spam immediately and literally stopped.
@CiaraNi @pmakholm Enshitification... That's a new word for me.
I don't know what is underneath it all in my mailprovider, so thank you for explaning a little about how it works.
My Outlook is really old and I get alot of spam on it.
My Proton is only a few weeks old, and I get no spam on it.I guess we'll have to see what happens when it's a couple of yours old.
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@CiaraNi @pmakholm Enshitification... That's a new word for me.
I don't know what is underneath it all in my mailprovider, so thank you for explaning a little about how it works.
My Outlook is really old and I get alot of spam on it.
My Proton is only a few weeks old, and I get no spam on it.I guess we'll have to see what happens when it's a couple of yours old.
Det er et begreb opfundet af Cory Doctorow for at beskrive hvorfor services på nettet bliver dårligere.
"Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die. I call this enshittification"
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Det er et begreb opfundet af Cory Doctorow for at beskrive hvorfor services på nettet bliver dårligere.
"Here is how platforms die: first, they are good to their users; then they abuse their users to make things better for their business customers; finally, they abuse those business customers to claw back all the value for themselves. Then, they die. I call this enshittification"
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I'd love to see more joy in conversations about leaving Big Tech. More focus on the good stuff, especially when chatting to someone who's never thought about the problems and doesn't want to hear about them.
"Hooray, I never have to see that bloody unturnoffable AI circle in Whatsapp again."
"Hey look! My map has no ads and it shows the hammocks in the park.'
"I have not received one single spam mail since I switched to a new email 11 months ago. Literally not one. Imagine!"
@CiaraNi I live my best computer life since !
things work, things interoperate, and I have many choices. it's globally easier -
@CiaraNi @lykkebrammer How much spam you get is mostly a matter of how old your address is and how aggresively your provider filters.
The latter is really a balance.
The spam problem is really not a case of your provider enshitifying their own service.
Mail is shit due to an obsolete trust model, not active enshitification.
@pmakholm
It is lack of effort on Microsoft etc. for user protection because they have juist about cornered the market, partly by making abuse such as phishing easy without sufficient safeguards which amounts to enshitification. They don't really care about users so 'balancing' is a non issue.
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@pmakholm
It is lack of effort on Microsoft etc. for user protection because they have juist about cornered the market, partly by making abuse such as phishing easy without sufficient safeguards which amounts to enshitification. They don't really care about users so 'balancing' is a non issue.
@CiaraNi @lykkebrammer@EregLoch Microsoft makes shit software.
But mail was pretty shit long before Microsoft became the one stop shop for enterprise mail services.
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