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  3. A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"

A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"

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  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

    I advocate for getting hackable open hardware stuff, and @sleepyowl is completely right that even the best options there still rely on supply chains we don't have enough control over, AND once those "resisting" become a small enough group, resisting becomes a lot more dangerous.

    That said, I think we should be taking a multi-pronged attack *now*, in every way imagineable:

    - Try to use *the most hackable hardware you can get* and contribute to making it a better experience
    - Support open firmware, hackable devices
    - Maybe it's time for the return of the install fest I dunno
    - Absolutely DO NOT run a proprietary operating system under any circumstances
    - FIGHT BACK ON THESE POLICIES! Contact your representatives, write articles, do whatever you gotta

    theotheroracle@solarpunk.moeT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #10

    @cwebber @sleepyowl
    😣😣😣 open semiconductor fabs when ,

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    • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

      RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149

      A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"

      Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL

      The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?

      We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.

      skellysoft@mastodon.gamedev.placeS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #11

      @cwebber @sleepyowl genuinely as time goes on I'm wondering if its a good idea to have at least one strictly offline device/machine

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      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

        RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149

        A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"

        Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL

        The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?

        We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.

        raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #12

        @cwebber @sleepyowl
        Age verification is a loss of privacy to big US Corporations and to your Government for all Adults.

        "Think of the children" is purely an excuse for surveillance. It's up to parents to "police" child access to technology or Internet, or books, or music. No-one else.

        This is a denial of human rights for all adults.

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        • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

          I advocate for getting hackable open hardware stuff, and @sleepyowl is completely right that even the best options there still rely on supply chains we don't have enough control over, AND once those "resisting" become a small enough group, resisting becomes a lot more dangerous.

          That said, I think we should be taking a multi-pronged attack *now*, in every way imagineable:

          - Try to use *the most hackable hardware you can get* and contribute to making it a better experience
          - Support open firmware, hackable devices
          - Maybe it's time for the return of the install fest I dunno
          - Absolutely DO NOT run a proprietary operating system under any circumstances
          - FIGHT BACK ON THESE POLICIES! Contact your representatives, write articles, do whatever you gotta

          lgsp@social.tchncs.deL This user is from outside of this forum
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          #13

          @cwebber @sleepyowl

          Great insight! Where is Bunnie Huang? We need more people like you and him, I think. Hack everything!

          How is the MNT reform fro this pont of view?

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          • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

            RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149

            A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"

            Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL

            The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?

            We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.

            pi_rat@freesoftwareextremist.comP This user is from outside of this forum
            pi_rat@freesoftwareextremist.comP This user is from outside of this forum
            pi_rat@freesoftwareextremist.com
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            #14
            @cwebber @sleepyowl Had a nightmare exactly about this today
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            • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

              I advocate for getting hackable open hardware stuff, and @sleepyowl is completely right that even the best options there still rely on supply chains we don't have enough control over, AND once those "resisting" become a small enough group, resisting becomes a lot more dangerous.

              That said, I think we should be taking a multi-pronged attack *now*, in every way imagineable:

              - Try to use *the most hackable hardware you can get* and contribute to making it a better experience
              - Support open firmware, hackable devices
              - Maybe it's time for the return of the install fest I dunno
              - Absolutely DO NOT run a proprietary operating system under any circumstances
              - FIGHT BACK ON THESE POLICIES! Contact your representatives, write articles, do whatever you gotta

              suetanvil@freeradical.zoneS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #15

              @cwebber @sleepyowl

              This. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

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              • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149

                A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"

                Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL

                The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?

                We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.

                joeyh@sunbeam.cityJ This user is from outside of this forum
                joeyh@sunbeam.cityJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                #16

                @cwebber @sleepyowl nobody is gonna prevent you from playing with your free softwares on your purple fisher-price laptop. It just cannot load any of the top 1000 websites (or anything on cloudflare), because they all require remote attestation of an adult OS.

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                • theotheroracle@solarpunk.moeT theotheroracle@solarpunk.moe

                  @cwebber @sleepyowl
                  😣😣😣 open semiconductor fabs when ,

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                  #17

                  @cwebber @sleepyowl i know its not super feasible , but i don't see any other way out of this

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                  • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                    I advocate for getting hackable open hardware stuff, and @sleepyowl is completely right that even the best options there still rely on supply chains we don't have enough control over, AND once those "resisting" become a small enough group, resisting becomes a lot more dangerous.

                    That said, I think we should be taking a multi-pronged attack *now*, in every way imagineable:

                    - Try to use *the most hackable hardware you can get* and contribute to making it a better experience
                    - Support open firmware, hackable devices
                    - Maybe it's time for the return of the install fest I dunno
                    - Absolutely DO NOT run a proprietary operating system under any circumstances
                    - FIGHT BACK ON THESE POLICIES! Contact your representatives, write articles, do whatever you gotta

                    dain@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #18

                    @cwebber @sleepyowl do you happen to know if Google could decide to lock the bootloader of a Pixel phone with a software update?

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                    • joeyh@sunbeam.cityJ joeyh@sunbeam.city

                      @cwebber @sleepyowl nobody is gonna prevent you from playing with your free softwares on your purple fisher-price laptop. It just cannot load any of the top 1000 websites (or anything on cloudflare), because they all require remote attestation of an adult OS.

                      cwebber@social.coopC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #19

                      @joeyh @sleepyowl I mean, for most people, and most of the time, that's the same thing

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                      • cwebber@social.coopC cwebber@social.coop

                        RE: https://chaos.social/@sleepyowl/116126002122086149

                        A must read thread from @sleepyowl, particularly for anyone laughing off the "oh they're trying to enforce age verification at an OS level, well I'll just change my open source operating system settings"

                        Y'all, this is the game where we get LOCKED OUT of having ANY real FOSS operating system we control AT ALL

                        The steps have been being put in place for this for over a decade now. And who controls the supply chain?

                        We have to fight this stuff tooth and nail.

                        gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG This user is from outside of this forum
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                        gimulnautti@mastodon.green
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                        #20

                        @cwebber @sleepyowl Age verification is the trojan horse for absolute surveillance

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