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When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

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  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

    @jlperuyero

    Adding reads as correcting: you are saying I didn't say enough/didn't say the right thing (and saying that without reading what I posted).

    I don't think the issue here is L1/L2 so much as male privilege.

    You are replying to an expert on the topic and not acknowledging that expertise.

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    #26

    @emilymbender
    (bows silently)

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    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

      When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

      But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

      https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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      #27

      @emilymbender I find myself wondering, can we create AI that enhances human labour, that strengthens accountability, that decentralises power? Are @DAIR or anyone else you know working on that? And if so, how can I get involved?

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      • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

        @jlperuyero My dude, I am literally posting the encyclopedia entry that I wrote on this topic -- each of those headings is expanded. And yet, you feel the need to correct what I am saying? I'd be astonished at the hubris but then I remember this is Mansplainodon, so yeah.

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        #28

        @emilymbender @jlperuyero Purely for informational reasons, I already have bro tagged in my notes as "yet another 'akshually' guy." Apparently it's a behavior pattern, and I'm sorry as an authoritative woman in a high-visibility field you have to deal with this shit relentlessly.

        At least now I have an excuse to block him.

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        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

          When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

          But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

          https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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          #29

          @emilymbender
          AI is and always will be the villagers in Age of Empires

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          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

            When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

            But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

            https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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            #30

            @emilymbender "Shift accountability" is always the first thing any psychopath notices about science.

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            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

              When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

              But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

              https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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              #31

              @emilymbender Just started reading the preprint, I had absolutely no idea how catch-all the term AI has always been, nor its origin.

              Thanks for sharing here!

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              • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                #32
                @emilymbender @x7557x
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                • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                  When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                  But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                  https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                  #33

                  @emilymbender A fascinating paper, which I need to read again more slowly to fully appreciate its theses.

                  How can I respond to your article without appearing to "mansplain"? (FWIW, I've been adjacent to the "AI" R&D field for decades, and have worked on several attempts to product-ize research prototypes, in machine learning, natural languages processing, deductive databases; but I'm far from being an expert in any of these (although I've worked with experts), let alone something as general as "AI", and my non-expertise will no doubt be indistinguishable from "mansplaining".)

                  That is, if you wish to have a conversation with a semi-expert.

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                  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                    When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                    But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                    https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                    #34

                    @emilymbender@dair-community.social Mind sending me a pdf? My university's shib is misbehaving.

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                    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                      @jlperuyero My dude, I am literally posting the encyclopedia entry that I wrote on this topic -- each of those headings is expanded. And yet, you feel the need to correct what I am saying? I'd be astonished at the hubris but then I remember this is Mansplainodon, so yeah.

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                      #35

                      @emilymbender @jlperuyero being a woman and having opinions about tech is an incredible experience. some random ass dude will literally come out of nowhere to "uhm, actually" you on everything from the mildest take to YOUR FUCKING ACADEMIC PAPER on the topic. every time.

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                      • claireh@blahaj.zoneC claireh@blahaj.zone

                        @emilymbender@dair-community.social Mind sending me a pdf? My university's shib is misbehaving.

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                        #36

                        @ClaireH

                        https://dair-community.social/@emilymbender/116885370631333741

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                        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                          When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                          But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                          https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                          #37

                          @emilymbender what if you run an open source AI locally on your machine? Then it wouldn’t centralise power. Right?

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                          • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                            When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                            But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                            https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                            #38

                            @emilymbender Read your preprint. Great work - I definitely need to go through some of the papers you cited.

                            (You would really think the word "Contents" would convey to people that the words in the image are not the entirety of what you wrote, but alas)

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                            • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                              When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                              But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                              https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                              #39

                              @emilymbender REAL AI (artificial intelligence) is the ultimate goal of machine learning. What is marketed as AI is Automated Incompetence based upon very smart and valuable language prediction modeling using stolen data. It is rather important to differentiate between the two. Your writing is a excellent description of what is currently being marketed.

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                              • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                Preprint available from my publications page:

                                https://faculty.washington.edu/ebender/publications/

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                                #40

                                @emilymbender Looks great, thank you for sharing the preprint!

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                                • wbpeckham@techhub.socialW wbpeckham@techhub.social

                                  @emilymbender REAL AI (artificial intelligence) is the ultimate goal of machine learning. What is marketed as AI is Automated Incompetence based upon very smart and valuable language prediction modeling using stolen data. It is rather important to differentiate between the two. Your writing is a excellent description of what is currently being marketed.

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                                  #41

                                  @wbpeckham Something tells me you didn't actually read the article.

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                                  • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                    When people ask me what the phrase "artificial intelligence" means, my short answer is, it means "venture capitalists, give me some money".

                                    But OUP asked me for a longer answer, given here and summarized in the section headings:

                                    https://doi.org/10.1093/9780197852712.003.0067

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                                    #42

                                    @emilymbender

                                    Professor Bender,

                                    I read your prepublication article with great interest. One thought it stirred for me is that the harms of the “AI” frame may be strengthened by the older “arms race” frame.

                                    I was at Harvey Mudd when Edward Teller visited and argued, somewhat surprisingly, that excessive secrecy had damaged American science. His view was that classified work drove away some of the best researchers, slowed open correction, and still failed to prevent leakage.

                                    That seems relevant to AI now. “Arms race” language does not merely describe policy. It changes who participates, what work becomes respectable, where accountability goes, and which institutions accumulate power.

                                    My own experience across early Internet development, classified systems work, venture-funded technology, and institutional exclusion has made me increasingly suspicious of any technical framing that hides labor, concentrates authority, or prevents open critique.

                                    Your article gave me a sharper vocabulary for that concern.

                                    Terri Gilbert

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                                    • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                      @wbpeckham Something tells me you didn't actually read the article.

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                                      #43

                                      @emilymbender If it requires clicking on a link, and if I didn't request it, I never do.

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                                      • wbpeckham@techhub.socialW wbpeckham@techhub.social

                                        @emilymbender If it requires clicking on a link, and if I didn't request it, I never do.

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                                        #44

                                        @wbpeckham Well then, you are awfully confident in replying to something you didn't read. (And yes, you look like a mansplaining fool.)

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                                        • emilymbender@dair-community.socialE emilymbender@dair-community.social

                                          @wbpeckham Well then, you are awfully confident in replying to something you didn't read. (And yes, you look like a mansplaining fool.)

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                                          #45

                                          @emilymbender And yet, what I did see of your writing I found compelling and worth complimenting. I guess that makes me worth criticizing.

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