Some asshole tried to report my friend @jbrownesq
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@jmaris @notsoloud @kimcrawley which ukrainian press? Show me which one you mean. I would love to discuss it, since I know the MEDIA THERE WAS NATIONALIZED years ago.
Conscription happens when you fight a war you CANT WIN, and you have to FORCE PEOPLE WHO DONT WANT TO FIGHT, TO FIGHT. Did you think... lol you could redefine what conscription means here??
Why did the US (Blinken) say NO to peace talks twice? Zelensky and Putin were going to talk. Why did the US say no?
@jbrownesq
Conscription means you can't win a war? You've got to retract that mate, there are SO many counterexamples. And very obvious ones.I don't mind discussion but it has to have some tether to reality.
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@jbrownesq
Conscription means you can't win a war? You've got to retract that mate, there are SO many counterexamples. And very obvious ones.I don't mind discussion but it has to have some tether to reality.
@jmaris @kimcrawley@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley yes... lets "tether to reality" is a normal thing to say when we have differing views on conscription, and what it means, when, etc etc. Right. Totally normal.
The war could have ended years ago when they tried to have peace talks, but Blinken said no. The US has been funding, supporting, even *operating* parts of this war since BEFORE it even started, and we can all fucking see that by now. You lose narrative control, sorry! Bet it was expensive lmao
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@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley yes... lets "tether to reality" is a normal thing to say when we have differing views on conscription, and what it means, when, etc etc. Right. Totally normal.
The war could have ended years ago when they tried to have peace talks, but Blinken said no. The US has been funding, supporting, even *operating* parts of this war since BEFORE it even started, and we can all fucking see that by now. You lose narrative control, sorry! Bet it was expensive lmao
@jbrownesq
I am saying that countries with conscription have won wars. That's not a viewpoint but a fact. Do you agree?
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@jbrownesq
I am saying that countries with conscription have won wars. That's not a viewpoint but a fact. Do you agree?
@jmaris @kimcrawley@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley Im super NOT focused on conscription (it isnt the crux of my point of view), but I see it as a sign of weakness in this case, as Im sure anyone familiar with the subject... could glean from what I was saying.
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@jbrownesq
I am saying that countries with conscription have won wars. That's not a viewpoint but a fact. Do you agree?
@jmaris @kimcrawley@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley you know, THIS extremely successful sounding conscription:
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@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley you know, THIS extremely successful sounding conscription:
@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley FORCED conscription, friend. They are fucking hunting people down, FLEEING FROM WAR, and forcing them to fight.
THIS IS NOT A NORMAL WAR. This is a fucking unwinnable proxy war orchestrated by the US, now with ridiculous discussion of EU continuing the conflict as the US goes insane and becomes fascist and cant pay its bills. Nonsense reality. And you seem to believe in the nonsense parts of it lmao
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@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley you know, THIS extremely successful sounding conscription:
@jbrownesq
Then why talk about conscription in general?I'd love Ukrainian conscription to be better organized and less corrupt. They may get there.
Surveys show quite strong backing to keep fighting among Ukrainians. They can win.
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@jbrownesq
Then why talk about conscription in general?I'd love Ukrainian conscription to be better organized and less corrupt. They may get there.
Surveys show quite strong backing to keep fighting among Ukrainians. They can win.
@jmaris @kimcrawley@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley they can win? What a demented thing to say. Russians and Ukrainians should stop fighting... now. Last year. They must sit down at the table ASAP, before more and more die and more "forever war" energy is gained, per the US's long term strategy... there. Numerous governments and intel orgs have, for a long time, discussed outcomes like this, using ukraine, and here we are. Congrats to everyone fucking involved. More dead 3rd parties to help US hegemonic goals.
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@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley FORCED conscription, friend. They are fucking hunting people down, FLEEING FROM WAR, and forcing them to fight.
THIS IS NOT A NORMAL WAR. This is a fucking unwinnable proxy war orchestrated by the US, now with ridiculous discussion of EU continuing the conflict as the US goes insane and becomes fascist and cant pay its bills. Nonsense reality. And you seem to believe in the nonsense parts of it lmao
@jbrownesq
By definition conscription is forced. Like taxes. Do you expect government to be funded by voluntary donations?I'm Danish. Lots of people get called up for basic training here and are "hunted down" if they don't show up. Seems quite natural.
And please enlighten me. How did the US orchestrate Russian tank columns pushing towards Kyiv? How do you force a nuclear power to do that?
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@jbrownesq
By definition conscription is forced. Like taxes. Do you expect government to be funded by voluntary donations?I'm Danish. Lots of people get called up for basic training here and are "hunted down" if they don't show up. Seems quite natural.
And please enlighten me. How did the US orchestrate Russian tank columns pushing towards Kyiv? How do you force a nuclear power to do that?
@jmaris @kimcrawley@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley wow, honestly I hadnt looked at how bad the conscription problem was....... and now that we have debated this I read more, and... holy shit!!
Its a HUGE problem! People dont want to fight! They are hunting people like animals, beating them, making disabled people fight, etc. This is NOT a sign of a nation - a PEOPLE - that wants to fight a war.. its a STATE with the US backing it that wants the war. END THE WAR!
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@jbrownesq
By definition conscription is forced. Like taxes. Do you expect government to be funded by voluntary donations?I'm Danish. Lots of people get called up for basic training here and are "hunted down" if they don't show up. Seems quite natural.
And please enlighten me. How did the US orchestrate Russian tank columns pushing towards Kyiv? How do you force a nuclear power to do that?
@jmaris @kimcrawley@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley wtf do you mean? Putin is a warmonger - like the US! He is easily baited into military action as the US knows. YEARS of small attacks against russian infrastructure and ethnic russian people, over a long period, including false flags, etc (bad shit!) until putin decides to invade. Then the US media shouts OHNO UNPROVOKED! HE IS CONQUERING EUROPE!! SCREEEEEECH! HE IS RESTARTING THE USSR! (all literally things said by our media, sounded like SCREECHING to me anyway)
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@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley wtf do you mean? Putin is a warmonger - like the US! He is easily baited into military action as the US knows. YEARS of small attacks against russian infrastructure and ethnic russian people, over a long period, including false flags, etc (bad shit!) until putin decides to invade. Then the US media shouts OHNO UNPROVOKED! HE IS CONQUERING EUROPE!! SCREEEEEECH! HE IS RESTARTING THE USSR! (all literally things said by our media, sounded like SCREECHING to me anyway)
@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley lmaooo LOOK! LOOK AT THIS TRASH
https://www.politico.eu/article/vladimir-putin-fall-russia-empire-ukraine-war-armenia-azerbaijan/
From 2022. People were.... repeating this! Saying we should "nuke russia" or "get ready for nuclear war" and all this insanity, building a total fantasy narrative about "putin restarting the USSR/taking europe", and this is not considered fringe shit by some people! Weve LOST OUR MINDS and its time... to stop this! BEFORE WW3! I doubt anyone really wants this!?!
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@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley wtf do you mean? Putin is a warmonger - like the US! He is easily baited into military action as the US knows. YEARS of small attacks against russian infrastructure and ethnic russian people, over a long period, including false flags, etc (bad shit!) until putin decides to invade. Then the US media shouts OHNO UNPROVOKED! HE IS CONQUERING EUROPE!! SCREEEEEECH! HE IS RESTARTING THE USSR! (all literally things said by our media, sounded like SCREECHING to me anyway)
@jbrownesq
Oh pooor widdle naive Putin. His KGB background did not prepare him for American manipulation
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@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley wtf do you mean? Putin is a warmonger - like the US! He is easily baited into military action as the US knows. YEARS of small attacks against russian infrastructure and ethnic russian people, over a long period, including false flags, etc (bad shit!) until putin decides to invade. Then the US media shouts OHNO UNPROVOKED! HE IS CONQUERING EUROPE!! SCREEEEEECH! HE IS RESTARTING THE USSR! (all literally things said by our media, sounded like SCREECHING to me anyway)
@jbrownesq
Anyways, as the current US administration has made clear, the real enemy is the EU
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@notsoloud @jmaris @kimcrawley wow, honestly I hadnt looked at how bad the conscription problem was....... and now that we have debated this I read more, and... holy shit!!
Its a HUGE problem! People dont want to fight! They are hunting people like animals, beating them, making disabled people fight, etc. This is NOT a sign of a nation - a PEOPLE - that wants to fight a war.. its a STATE with the US backing it that wants the war. END THE WAR!
@jbrownesq
And still they're holding back the Mighty Russian Army (look up operation Vivaldi). And the Drapatyi appointment hasn't even had time to be properly felt yet.Imagine what they could do if they really got their shit together.
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His server admin runs an astrologers business. They probably read it in the stars.
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Some asshole tried to report my friend @jbrownesq
Since I'm the owner of StopGenAI.org, I told the reporter to fuck off, liberal.
Ukraine *is* a proxy war, used by the US. "Slava Ukraini" is Nazi.
I got your back, J Brown.
Once again, liberals, worshipping the US military regime, go fuck off.
hello kim. i have seen that you support russia and call the invasion of ukraine a "proxy nato war full of ukrainian nazis"
i'm kazakh and ukrainian. i am a POC and belong to peoples that russia has killed and oppressed, historically and contemporarily, through its imperialism
putin is a fascist politician in bed with trump.
you have 0 non-US perspective to have any idea what you're talking about. you're supporting a white supremacist genocide
please educate yourself
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hello kim. i have seen that you support russia and call the invasion of ukraine a "proxy nato war full of ukrainian nazis"
i'm kazakh and ukrainian. i am a POC and belong to peoples that russia has killed and oppressed, historically and contemporarily, through its imperialism
putin is a fascist politician in bed with trump.
you have 0 non-US perspective to have any idea what you're talking about. you're supporting a white supremacist genocide
please educate yourself
whether or not NATO stands to gain anything from this conflict is irrelevant to the fact that russian armed forces are committing war crimes, kidnappings of children and killings of civillians in a war of genocidal conquest fueled by Russian white supremacist "eurasianist" philosophy that mirrors US exceptionalism.
you lack the perspective needed because your politics is largerly informed by USA-centric and West-centric views.
you lack nuance.
you fell for propaganda.
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whether or not NATO stands to gain anything from this conflict is irrelevant to the fact that russian armed forces are committing war crimes, kidnappings of children and killings of civillians in a war of genocidal conquest fueled by Russian white supremacist "eurasianist" philosophy that mirrors US exceptionalism.
you lack the perspective needed because your politics is largerly informed by USA-centric and West-centric views.
you lack nuance.
you fell for propaganda.
@kimcrawley @jbrownesq please read about the ethnic cleansing and other ways russian empire has treated us, read about Dugin and how his fascist philosophy inspired Putin, about how Stalin suppressed kazakh national liberation and autonomy movements. read about nuclear tests on Semipalatinsk. russia wasn't all sunshine and roses and surely not just because USA loves to use that for its propaganda.
it's because it's just another empire.
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@kimcrawley @jbrownesq please read about the ethnic cleansing and other ways russian empire has treated us, read about Dugin and how his fascist philosophy inspired Putin, about how Stalin suppressed kazakh national liberation and autonomy movements. read about nuclear tests on Semipalatinsk. russia wasn't all sunshine and roses and surely not just because USA loves to use that for its propaganda.
it's because it's just another empire.
like yours.@kimcrawley @jbrownesq i understand the desire to immediately dismiss everything USA says about anything as invalid solely because it's a capitalist empire that likes to demonize its enemies. but this approach is not only irrational, it actively talks over the people affected, especially those who live in regions that are not given any attention from westerners. INCLUDING POCs.
you do not get to decide that this country isn't doing genocide when it repeats its very well-documented history
