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  • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

    To eveyone on Mastodon:

    The real lesson of the US attack on autistici/inventi is that WE ARE NEXT. Mastodon servers mostly do not run things like PRISM, are often based outside the US, and compete directly with the Tech Bros and their ad and tracker supported shit for an audience.

    Also lots of anti-Trump activism here.

    If we don't fight for autistici/inventi today, we will have to fight for Mastodon tomorrow. Domino effects are real with Fascists as we saw at the start of WWII.

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    #15

    @LukefromDC

    The flood of cash from fossil fuel funded fascists to make this happen is getting truly astronomical.

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/oct/25/fossil-fuel-company-donate-lawmakers-anti-protest-exxon-koch

    https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2023/10/study-fossil-fuel-industry-lobbying-anti-protest-bills/

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/26/anti-protest-laws-fossil-fuel-lobby

    https://ips-dc.org/inside-the-world-of-fossil-fuel-philanthropy/

    https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-counterterrorism-strategy-antifa

    https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/research-reports/trumps-orders-targeting-antifascism-aim-criminalize-opposition

    https://znetwork.org/znetarticle/the-myth-of-a-global-antifa/

    https://dissentmagazine.org/article/fighting-fire-and-fascism-in-the-american-west/

    https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvgje507pn2t

    The most corrupt industry on the planet is willing to do anything, literally anything, to keep its fossil fuel subsidies
    https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/science.aej2018

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    • thisislieven@c.imT thisislieven@c.im

      @gbargoud

      Thanks, that gives some clarity.

      With my instance is actually interesting. Team is in Estonia, data hosted in the Netherlands, TLD from Isle of Man so I am not sure what gets precedence here. Isle of Man is not EU, Estonia and the Netherlands are - that also matters.

      Maybe it's not the worst idea for US-based instances to at least explore what it would mean to move everything. And all others to at least have a plan in place as well.

      A voluntary user database that lives independently might also be an idea? Just in case everything gets down at once people can be reached and the community won't fall apart at once.

      This should be a bigger fediverse-wide conversation.

      @LukefromDC

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      #16

      @thisislieven @gbargoud I think we can expect that in the future, servers hosting content attacking any one government will have to be either total darknet/torified or hosted in nations that regard the target nation as an enemy.

      Thus, US left servers might be hosted in Cuba while far-right Cuban exiles would use US hosting.

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      • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

        To eveyone on Mastodon:

        The real lesson of the US attack on autistici/inventi is that WE ARE NEXT. Mastodon servers mostly do not run things like PRISM, are often based outside the US, and compete directly with the Tech Bros and their ad and tracker supported shit for an audience.

        Also lots of anti-Trump activism here.

        If we don't fight for autistici/inventi today, we will have to fight for Mastodon tomorrow. Domino effects are real with Fascists as we saw at the start of WWII.

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        #17

        @LukefromDC Honestly wild. Never thought I'd see the day, but here we are.

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        • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

          To eveyone on Mastodon:

          The real lesson of the US attack on autistici/inventi is that WE ARE NEXT. Mastodon servers mostly do not run things like PRISM, are often based outside the US, and compete directly with the Tech Bros and their ad and tracker supported shit for an audience.

          Also lots of anti-Trump activism here.

          If we don't fight for autistici/inventi today, we will have to fight for Mastodon tomorrow. Domino effects are real with Fascists as we saw at the start of WWII.

          ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #18

          @LukefromDC

          What’s the back ground story?

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          • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

            To eveyone on Mastodon:

            The real lesson of the US attack on autistici/inventi is that WE ARE NEXT. Mastodon servers mostly do not run things like PRISM, are often based outside the US, and compete directly with the Tech Bros and their ad and tracker supported shit for an audience.

            Also lots of anti-Trump activism here.

            If we don't fight for autistici/inventi today, we will have to fight for Mastodon tomorrow. Domino effects are real with Fascists as we saw at the start of WWII.

            demofox@mastodon.gamedev.placeD This user is from outside of this forum
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            #19

            @LukefromDC not just ww2, the things considered normal now were absurd months ago, and the things normal then were absurd months before that.

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            • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

              To eveyone on Mastodon:

              The real lesson of the US attack on autistici/inventi is that WE ARE NEXT. Mastodon servers mostly do not run things like PRISM, are often based outside the US, and compete directly with the Tech Bros and their ad and tracker supported shit for an audience.

              Also lots of anti-Trump activism here.

              If we don't fight for autistici/inventi today, we will have to fight for Mastodon tomorrow. Domino effects are real with Fascists as we saw at the start of WWII.

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              #20

              @LukefromDC
              We need our govts to retaliate and block X and warn trump Meta and Tic Toc are next if he doesn't retreat. Tell him on a Tuesday morning.

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              • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                To eveyone on Mastodon:

                The real lesson of the US attack on autistici/inventi is that WE ARE NEXT. Mastodon servers mostly do not run things like PRISM, are often based outside the US, and compete directly with the Tech Bros and their ad and tracker supported shit for an audience.

                Also lots of anti-Trump activism here.

                If we don't fight for autistici/inventi today, we will have to fight for Mastodon tomorrow. Domino effects are real with Fascists as we saw at the start of WWII.

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                #21

                @LukefromDC And here I was worried about my Protonmail account. Wasn't even considering fedi.

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                • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                  @LukefromDC

                  What’s the back ground story?

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                  #22

                  @GhostOnTheHalfShell

                  https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/rubio-uses-terrorism-law-ban-161533069.html

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                  • baedling@anomie.fedihost.ioB baedling@anomie.fedihost.io

                    @LukefromDC any tangible ideas on how to fight for A/I? i've been wanting to fight this but idk what can be done.

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                    #23

                    @baedling @LukefromDC I think that if you are American and you are a customer of these guys you might have basis to sue.

                    It's going to be what my sign is about tomorrow...

                    "What they're doing to Autistici/Invitati should scare the shit out of you," is what I was thinking of going with unless something better comes to mind or is suggested.

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                    • psoul@sfba.socialP psoul@sfba.social

                      @GhostOnTheHalfShell

                      https://www.yahoo.com/news/politics/articles/rubio-uses-terrorism-law-ban-161533069.html

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                      #24

                      @psoul

                      Ty

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                      • clickhere@mastodon.ieC clickhere@mastodon.ie

                        @baedling @LukefromDC Came here to ask basically this.

                        I'm not a technical (or in any way computery) person, so is there anything us normies can do?

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                        #25

                        @clickhere @baedling @LukefromDC One of the easiest and best first step is probably to sign up for Tuta or Proton or something and start using it.

                        Start taking your privacy very seriously. Learn as much as you can about how much you are sharing and how to stop.

                        And I think they suggested trying to make as many people as aware of this as you can. If not, that should help also.

                        Insist on the type of communication systems they provided and don't settle.

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                        • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                          To eveyone on Mastodon:

                          The real lesson of the US attack on autistici/inventi is that WE ARE NEXT. Mastodon servers mostly do not run things like PRISM, are often based outside the US, and compete directly with the Tech Bros and their ad and tracker supported shit for an audience.

                          Also lots of anti-Trump activism here.

                          If we don't fight for autistici/inventi today, we will have to fight for Mastodon tomorrow. Domino effects are real with Fascists as we saw at the start of WWII.

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                          #26
                          @LukefromDC So what do we do? I figured this already, but I'm not very activist.
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                          • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                            To eveyone on Mastodon:

                            The real lesson of the US attack on autistici/inventi is that WE ARE NEXT. Mastodon servers mostly do not run things like PRISM, are often based outside the US, and compete directly with the Tech Bros and their ad and tracker supported shit for an audience.

                            Also lots of anti-Trump activism here.

                            If we don't fight for autistici/inventi today, we will have to fight for Mastodon tomorrow. Domino effects are real with Fascists as we saw at the start of WWII.

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                            #27

                            @LukefromDC

                            https://cavallette.noblogs.org/2026/08/10076

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                            • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                              @clickhere @baedling @LukefromDC One of the easiest and best first step is probably to sign up for Tuta or Proton or something and start using it.

                              Start taking your privacy very seriously. Learn as much as you can about how much you are sharing and how to stop.

                              And I think they suggested trying to make as many people as aware of this as you can. If not, that should help also.

                              Insist on the type of communication systems they provided and don't settle.

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                              #28

                              @crazyeddie @clickhere @baedling @LukefromDC I haven't heard anything about this. Is there a link to what's going on?

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                              • denebeim@mastodon.socialD denebeim@mastodon.social

                                @crazyeddie @clickhere @baedling @LukefromDC I haven't heard anything about this. Is there a link to what's going on?

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                                #29

                                @denebeim @crazyeddie @clickhere @LukefromDC https://www.state.gov/releases/office-of-the-spokesperson/2026/08/designation-of-autistici-inventati-as-a-specially-designated-global-terrorist/

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                                • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                                  To eveyone on Mastodon:

                                  The real lesson of the US attack on autistici/inventi is that WE ARE NEXT. Mastodon servers mostly do not run things like PRISM, are often based outside the US, and compete directly with the Tech Bros and their ad and tracker supported shit for an audience.

                                  Also lots of anti-Trump activism here.

                                  If we don't fight for autistici/inventi today, we will have to fight for Mastodon tomorrow. Domino effects are real with Fascists as we saw at the start of WWII.

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                                  #30

                                  @LukefromDC And let me foresee there's more than two years of all this ahead - including also how next US elections are actively and deeply manipulated already.

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                                  • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                                    To eveyone on Mastodon:

                                    The real lesson of the US attack on autistici/inventi is that WE ARE NEXT. Mastodon servers mostly do not run things like PRISM, are often based outside the US, and compete directly with the Tech Bros and their ad and tracker supported shit for an audience.

                                    Also lots of anti-Trump activism here.

                                    If we don't fight for autistici/inventi today, we will have to fight for Mastodon tomorrow. Domino effects are real with Fascists as we saw at the start of WWII.

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                                    #31

                                    @LukefromDC

                                    ANTIFA TERRORIST MASTODIN NETWORK OF CLANDESTINE SECRET COMPUTERS!!!

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                                    • lukefromdc@kolektiva.socialL lukefromdc@kolektiva.social

                                      To eveyone on Mastodon:

                                      The real lesson of the US attack on autistici/inventi is that WE ARE NEXT. Mastodon servers mostly do not run things like PRISM, are often based outside the US, and compete directly with the Tech Bros and their ad and tracker supported shit for an audience.

                                      Also lots of anti-Trump activism here.

                                      If we don't fight for autistici/inventi today, we will have to fight for Mastodon tomorrow. Domino effects are real with Fascists as we saw at the start of WWII.

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                                      #32

                                      @LukefromDC well the world would probably be better without social media at all....

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                                      • thisislieven@c.imT thisislieven@c.im

                                        @LukefromDC I would love to understand where the fediverse is actually vulnerable.

                                        I am nowhere near an expert on this but part of the fediverse is European and I guess it depends where the actual infrastructure is located and/or which company may host it.

                                        The other part of course may be whether or not European politicians decide to go along and do whatever the US tells them to do - which, sadly not that unlikely. Especially Germany presents a risk here.

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                                        #33

                                        @thisislieven Fedi potential vulnerabilities are only a portion of the picture.
                                        PIR manages all the .org domains and is headquartered in the US.
                                        Moreover A/I bank account has been blocked, as well as PayPal donations. The bank account is hosted at Banca Etica (lit. Ethical Bank). The bank stated that they can pay the fine for hosting an allegedly "terrorist" group, but US threatened to block all dollars transactions to that bank, impacting all of their customers.

                                        @LukefromDC

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                                        • thisislieven@c.imT thisislieven@c.im

                                          @LukefromDC I would love to understand where the fediverse is actually vulnerable.

                                          I am nowhere near an expert on this but part of the fediverse is European and I guess it depends where the actual infrastructure is located and/or which company may host it.

                                          The other part of course may be whether or not European politicians decide to go along and do whatever the US tells them to do - which, sadly not that unlikely. Especially Germany presents a risk here.

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                                          #34

                                          @thisislieven @LukefromDC I would say that european governments might have their own motivations to block political dissidence.

                                          Also, many of us use the .org domains, so might be in a similar position.

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