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Oh how the kids used to laugh at our tales of job-hunting by walking into places.

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  • ondekvinde@helvede.netO ondekvinde@helvede.net

    @CiaraNi early rejectors

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    @ondekvinde Early rejectors. Yes. That's it.

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    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

      Oh how the kids used to laugh at our tales of job-hunting by walking into places. I wonder if GAI was invented by a guerilla solarpunker, because it seems to be bringing back some of our old ways.

      Danish nursing services are increasingly hiring through informal drop-in interviews.

      ”The same words were being used in job applications, as if written by AI. Personal meetings at drop-in interviews give a more genuine sense of the applicant and whether it's a good match.’

      https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/traet-af-skrive-jobansoegninger-her-kan-du-faa-job-ved-blot-moede-op

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      @CiaraNi for one of my first job applications I sent a job application and my CV then showed up at their office with printouts. I got asked if I had sent them an email and yes I did and then I was ignored and more or less told to bugger off. Terrible experience, never done it again.

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      • reynir@social.data.coopR reynir@social.data.coop

        @CiaraNi for one of my first job applications I sent a job application and my CV then showed up at their office with printouts. I got asked if I had sent them an email and yes I did and then I was ignored and more or less told to bugger off. Terrible experience, never done it again.

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        @reynir Not now, though? Not in current times. I assume. What you're describing sounds like late 1990s or early 2000s, at a guess. After personal approaches and print applications were no longer the norm, after email came in and personal contact went out. But before this current period where people AI-generate applications and companies get their AI-machines to 'read' them.

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          @reynir Not now, though? Not in current times. I assume. What you're describing sounds like late 1990s or early 2000s, at a guess. After personal approaches and print applications were no longer the norm, after email came in and personal contact went out. But before this current period where people AI-generate applications and companies get their AI-machines to 'read' them.

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          @CiaraNi no, a bit more than a decade ago. It was also a tech company.

          I don't like the current job landscape. I do send out job applications now (all without AI) and I get frustrated by all the job ads saying how they use AI and they expect applicants to as well.

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          • reynir@social.data.coopR reynir@social.data.coop

            @CiaraNi no, a bit more than a decade ago. It was also a tech company.

            I don't like the current job landscape. I do send out job applications now (all without AI) and I get frustrated by all the job ads saying how they use AI and they expect applicants to as well.

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            @reynir @CiaraNi Can imagine, sadly. Maybe we need to form new companies as so many others go down the drain. Very easily said, though - not as easy to do.
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              @mlazz @ondekvinde Early mitigators - that fits too. They are rejecting the use of GAI and mitigating the consequences of the use of AI. And innovating, repurposing old practices.

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                '”The drop-in interview was a nice way to do it. I wasn’t as nervous beforehand. It lets you be yourself. It felt easier to talk about myself by just showing up. And it was a two-way interview. I was able to ask about the department and colleagues.”

                Written job applications may be on the way out, she thinks. Especially in areas like healthcare, where human contact is vital for collaboration and for working with patients.

                After the drop-in interview, she was hired.'

                https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/kathrine-fik-job-uden-skriftlig-ansoegning-det-aabner-op-man-kan-vaere-sig-selv

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                @CiaraNi When a friend went for a (formal, planned) job interview, he had to wait a while before the interviewers would be ready for him, and he was shown to the office kitchen. He got chatting to various people as they got their cups of tea or coffee; they seemed like great people and he really opened out and chatted happily back to them. When the interview itself came, it was more or less just “you’ve got the job”.

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                • reynir@social.data.coopR reynir@social.data.coop

                  @CiaraNi no, a bit more than a decade ago. It was also a tech company.

                  I don't like the current job landscape. I do send out job applications now (all without AI) and I get frustrated by all the job ads saying how they use AI and they expect applicants to as well.

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                  @reynir In the 2010s - I guessed wrongly. I thought it would have happened in the transition to all-digital recruitment. But you were trying a radical approach, turning up in person when online-only applications were the established norm. Nice try!

                  I didn't know that some companies are now actually telling job candidates that they want them to send AI-generated job applications. Bizarre.

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                  • marcusxms@friendica.dkM marcusxms@friendica.dk
                    @reynir @CiaraNi Can imagine, sadly. Maybe we need to form new companies as so many others go down the drain. Very easily said, though - not as easy to do.
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                    @marcusxms @reynir Things like hospitals holding open-hour sessions for drop-in job interviews on weekend afternoons give me some hope that it's not infinitely inevitable that an AI-saturated society is the only future. That some innovative functional pushback is emerging in places, like tiny wildflowers starting to push up through the cracks in a post-catastrophe barren landscape.

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                    • baz@mastodon.scotB baz@mastodon.scot

                      @CiaraNi When a friend went for a (formal, planned) job interview, he had to wait a while before the interviewers would be ready for him, and he was shown to the office kitchen. He got chatting to various people as they got their cups of tea or coffee; they seemed like great people and he really opened out and chatted happily back to them. When the interview itself came, it was more or less just “you’ve got the job”.

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                      @baz That is so lovely and so *human*.

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        Oh how the kids used to laugh at our tales of job-hunting by walking into places. I wonder if GAI was invented by a guerilla solarpunker, because it seems to be bringing back some of our old ways.

                        Danish nursing services are increasingly hiring through informal drop-in interviews.

                        ”The same words were being used in job applications, as if written by AI. Personal meetings at drop-in interviews give a more genuine sense of the applicant and whether it's a good match.’

                        https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/traet-af-skrive-jobansoegninger-her-kan-du-faa-job-ved-blot-moede-op

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                        @CiaraNi What a lovely story! Thanks for sharing it.

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                        • jeridansky@sfba.socialJ jeridansky@sfba.social

                          @CiaraNi What a lovely story! Thanks for sharing it.

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                          @jeridansky The prioroitising of human connection is nice, amid all of everything right now

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            @reynir In the 2010s - I guessed wrongly. I thought it would have happened in the transition to all-digital recruitment. But you were trying a radical approach, turning up in person when online-only applications were the established norm. Nice try!

                            I didn't know that some companies are now actually telling job candidates that they want them to send AI-generated job applications. Bizarre.

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                            @CiaraNi sorry I was being unclear. They are not asking for AI-generated job applications, but the job description specifically says you will be expected to use AI at the job.

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