Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!

[tml@mementomori.social]

@jon It shows where reindeers are herded. I guess the regulations related to collision with a reindeer are different in that area or something? And maybe means ”we won’t bother putting up separate warning signs all over the place, you just have to be aware”

[thisislieven@c.im]

@jon Do you have access to Galileo? Maybe that works - and is our own European system to boot!

[ueberlauch@mastodon.social]

@krigsman @jon
But the text for the main picture is German.
"Die Grenze des finnischen Rentierzuchtgebiets beginnt an der Gemeindegrenze von Kuhmo und Suomussalmi."

reindeer herding area

[tml@mementomori.social]

@davidjamesweir @jon 36% of Finland’s territory! (Much less of its public roads, of course.)

[tml@mementomori.social]

@jon But you might have arrived with your car on the train, and not actually driven over the boundary.

[tml@mementomori.social]

@jon @tkalvas Yes, good point. Maybe to emphasise that it is the whole Northern third of the country.

[davidjamesweir@mementomori.social]

@jon Good question (and I suppose then it is not just the southern boundary)…

(The Finnish road sign thing that I always get confused by is the ”yleisrajoitus” [general speed limit] annotation on 80 km/h signs on single carriageway roads when leaving slower areas. I mean, of course 80 km/h is the general speed limit, so why the extra annotation? If it were for foreigners, why is it only in Finnish/Swedish? I learned to drive in Finland so I remember learning about the sign you posted, but not about the ’yleisrajoitus’ annotation.)

[jon@gruene.social]

@tml Hmmm. Maybe. Tenuous, but perhaps. (This was about 4km from the railway station)

[bovine3dom@masto.ai]

@stefanlindbohm seven raspberry pis, seven infrastructure manager cupboards, and lots of lawyers

@jon

[tml@mementomori.social]

@jon You went for a long refreshing walk along the road away from the centre of Kemijärvi?

[sebwilken@mastodon.social]

@jon Here is an elk sign for comparison. They should be taken seriously, elk accidents are no fun.

Reindeer, on the other hand, are pretty harmless and max a nuisance: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sRsIZiA8AZA

[jon@gruene.social]

@tml Yes, to Kallaanvaara, to find this!

[matt_jarvin@eliitin-some.fi]

@tml @jon @tkalvas

I guess it's just a reminder because deer/elk/moose warnings in the south are just for some road sections and reindeer warning is for the whole area.

[compfu@mograph.social]

@jon Is there already a name for those occasions where your train will cross the green line?

I can't believe Bilbao is basically right on that green line (although you won't pass through that city of course).

[eliasp@mastodon.social]

@jon @thisislieven this might be due to Russian GPS jamming.

[tml@mementomori.social]

@sebwilken @jon Male reindeer can be pretty impressive size, too. Wouldn’t want to run into a such in a small car. At the very least those antlers will spoil the surface finish, I think.

This one is in middle Sweden, though. Maybe they are smaller in Lapland.

[tkalvas@mastodontti.fi]

@jon I don't really know why it's this way. In the south you just get regular warning signs with moose or deer, maybe it's to make the difference clear (and the fact that the danger doesn't stop after a couple of km.)

Reindeer, being half tame behave quite differently than moose. They might decide to not be scared of a car at all.

[jon@gruene.social]

@sebwilken That looks like an elk. But the reindeer one looks like a stag.

[bellinghman@wandering.shop]

@jon Some trains (for me, often TGVs) just block GPS - the signal just doesn't make it through whatever coating there is on their windows

There's being so far north that the number of satellites above the horizon is low, which means fewer with strong signals, which means train infrastructure may leave too few for your phone to do the 3D geometric calculations properly

And then there's WiFi assisted GPS, which sees your train WiFi and goes "Oh, that network ID? Forget satellites, Stockholm!"

[zorun@social.atypique.net]

@jon Can we republish pictures from your trip on https://www.bonjourtchoutchou.fr/ and @BonjourTchoutchou ? (with attribution / license)

It's a hobby website made by train nerds for train nerds.

In any case, have a nice trip!