Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!
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Reindeer herding area.
Of course the wikipedia article is only in Finnish: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poronhoitoalue.
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@jon I think this marks the southern boundary of the area where reindeer flocks are tended: https://fi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poronhoitoalue
@davidjamesweir @jon 36% of Finland’s territory! (Much less of its public roads, of course.)
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@jon But you might have arrived with your car on the train, and not actually driven over the boundary.
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@jon Good question (and I suppose then it is not just the southern boundary)…
(The Finnish road sign thing that I always get confused by is the ”yleisrajoitus” [general speed limit] annotation on 80 km/h signs on single carriageway roads when leaving slower areas. I mean, of course 80 km/h is the general speed limit, so why the extra annotation? If it were for foreigners, why is it only in Finnish/Swedish? I learned to drive in Finland so I remember learning about the sign you posted, but not about the ’yleisrajoitus’ annotation.)
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@jon But you might have arrived with your car on the train, and not actually driven over the boundary.
@tml Hmmm. Maybe. Tenuous, but perhaps. (This was about 4km from the railway station)
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@jon I actually don’t think it’s currently possible
@stefanlindbohm seven raspberry pis, seven infrastructure manager cupboards, and lots of lawyers
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@tml Hmmm. Maybe. Tenuous, but perhaps. (This was about 4km from the railway station)
@jon You went for a long refreshing walk along the road away from the centre of Kemijärvi?
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@jon This is about reindeer. They roam freely in the marked area. Elk you find mostly in the south.
@jon Here is an elk sign for comparison. They should be taken seriously, elk accidents are no fun.
Reindeer, on the other hand, are pretty harmless and max a nuisance: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sRsIZiA8AZA
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@jon You went for a long refreshing walk along the road away from the centre of Kemijärvi?
@tml Yes, to Kallaanvaara, to find this!
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19:00 Kemijärvi - Kemi 22:27Distance: 198km (11th of 18)
Avg speed: 57km/h (16th of 18)3 stops:
Misi
Rovaniemi
Kemi
mapped: https://umap.openstreetmap.fr/en/map/eu-longest-train-journey_1427743#9/66.235202/25.965020@jon Is there already a name for those occasions where your train will cross the green line?
I can't believe Bilbao is basically right on that green line (although you won't pass through that city of course).
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@thisislieven See the later posts! Somehow GPS is just not working.
@jon @thisislieven this might be due to Russian GPS jamming.
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@jon Here is an elk sign for comparison. They should be taken seriously, elk accidents are no fun.
Reindeer, on the other hand, are pretty harmless and max a nuisance: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sRsIZiA8AZA
@sebwilken @jon Male reindeer can be pretty impressive size, too. Wouldn’t want to run into a such in a small car. At the very least those antlers will spoil the surface finish, I think.
This one is in middle Sweden, though. Maybe they are smaller in Lapland.
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@jon I don't really know why it's this way. In the south you just get regular warning signs with moose or deer, maybe it's to make the difference clear (and the fact that the danger doesn't stop after a couple of km.)
Reindeer, being half tame behave quite differently than moose. They might decide to not be scared of a car at all.
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@jon Here is an elk sign for comparison. They should be taken seriously, elk accidents are no fun.
Reindeer, on the other hand, are pretty harmless and max a nuisance: https://youtube.com/watch?v=sRsIZiA8AZA
@sebwilken That looks like an elk. But the reindeer one looks like a stag.
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Hmmm 🤨
The live tracking thinks I have barely left Rovaniemi
But I most definitely have, and am two thirds of the way to Kemi
I simply cannot get any decent GPS signal here, even between carriages
@jon Some trains (for me, often TGVs) just block GPS - the signal just doesn't make it through whatever coating there is on their windows
There's being so far north that the number of satellites above the horizon is low, which means fewer with strong signals, which means train infrastructure may leave too few for your phone to do the 3D geometric calculations properly
And then there's WiFi assisted GPS, which sees your train WiFi and goes "Oh, that network ID? Forget satellites, Stockholm!"
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Welcome to the #LongestTrainEU #CrossBorderRail record breaking thread!
This train journey starts in Kemijärvi
and ends in Lagos 
18 trains, 100 hours 9 minutes, 4008km as the crow flies, 6281 route-km
The background to this project is here:
https://longestjourney.crossborderrail.eu/And the live tracking throughout is here:
https://longestjourneylive.crossborderrail.eu/@jon Can we republish pictures from your trip on https://www.bonjourtchoutchou.fr/ and @BonjourTchoutchou ? (with attribution / license)
It's a hobby website made by train nerds for train nerds.
In any case, have a nice trip!
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@jon Some trains (for me, often TGVs) just block GPS - the signal just doesn't make it through whatever coating there is on their windows
There's being so far north that the number of satellites above the horizon is low, which means fewer with strong signals, which means train infrastructure may leave too few for your phone to do the 3D geometric calculations properly
And then there's WiFi assisted GPS, which sees your train WiFi and goes "Oh, that network ID? Forget satellites, Stockholm!"
@bellinghman Yes, but I even went between the carriages where normally you overcome that window problem and even that didn't work
Anyway it is back working now. Let's see how it goes tomorrow!
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@jon Can we republish pictures from your trip on https://www.bonjourtchoutchou.fr/ and @BonjourTchoutchou ? (with attribution / license)
It's a hobby website made by train nerds for train nerds.
In any case, have a nice trip!
@zorun @BonjourTchoutchou Absolutely! And any pics I have on Flickr too.
