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Attention developers of KDE, Gnome, Libreoffice, GIMP, and any and all applications that let you use fonts: We need to talk about font management.

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  • moriel@chaosfem.twM This user is from outside of this forum
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    Attention developers of KDE, Gnome, Libreoffice, GIMP, and any and all applications that let you use fonts: We need to talk about font management.

    i run Kubuntu and when i am editing a document or an image and need to select a font, i am presented with a single scrolling list of all the fonts installed on the system, which is several hundred and includes fonts not only for every language currently used in the world, it also includes languages such as Linear A, which has not been spoken in more than 3500 years! Now it's great that my system can display all these different things, and it's really useful in a multilingual environment such as the social media services i use, but at the same time when i need to find a font to use for my own languages it becomes and overwhelming task! We need to fix this.

    What we need is for font selectors to have a way to filter the fonts displayed to you. Preferably a filter by language, though i can see how that would need a lot of work and cooperation from the font package maintainers since the language isn't really a characteristic stored in a font file as i understand. Being able to filter by other characteristics, such as serif/sans serif would also be useful.

    i recognize that this is not a small or easy task, but i think it is one that desperately needs a solution. And no, uninstalling fonts is not a solution since that breaks the display of text in social media by people from other countries. Breaking the ability to communicate across international borders is not the solution to managing the list of available fonts.

    i really don't know how to get this message to the right people, so i'm throwing it out into the Fediverse in the hope that someone either knows of a good workaround, or can point me in the direction of who to talk to in order to get the conversation about this issue started among the right people.

    #debian #ubuntu #gnu #gimp #linux #kde #gnome #fonts

    kbm0@mastodon.socialK moriel@chaosfem.twM eleanor@chaosfem.twE 3 Replies Last reply
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    • moriel@chaosfem.twM moriel@chaosfem.tw

      Attention developers of KDE, Gnome, Libreoffice, GIMP, and any and all applications that let you use fonts: We need to talk about font management.

      i run Kubuntu and when i am editing a document or an image and need to select a font, i am presented with a single scrolling list of all the fonts installed on the system, which is several hundred and includes fonts not only for every language currently used in the world, it also includes languages such as Linear A, which has not been spoken in more than 3500 years! Now it's great that my system can display all these different things, and it's really useful in a multilingual environment such as the social media services i use, but at the same time when i need to find a font to use for my own languages it becomes and overwhelming task! We need to fix this.

      What we need is for font selectors to have a way to filter the fonts displayed to you. Preferably a filter by language, though i can see how that would need a lot of work and cooperation from the font package maintainers since the language isn't really a characteristic stored in a font file as i understand. Being able to filter by other characteristics, such as serif/sans serif would also be useful.

      i recognize that this is not a small or easy task, but i think it is one that desperately needs a solution. And no, uninstalling fonts is not a solution since that breaks the display of text in social media by people from other countries. Breaking the ability to communicate across international borders is not the solution to managing the list of available fonts.

      i really don't know how to get this message to the right people, so i'm throwing it out into the Fediverse in the hope that someone either knows of a good workaround, or can point me in the direction of who to talk to in order to get the conversation about this issue started among the right people.

      #debian #ubuntu #gnu #gimp #linux #kde #gnome #fonts

      kbm0@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
      kbm0@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
      kbm0@mastodon.social
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      @moriel This reminds me of the way the gtk print dialogue displays every printer within a 5km radius.

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      • moriel@chaosfem.twM moriel@chaosfem.tw

        Attention developers of KDE, Gnome, Libreoffice, GIMP, and any and all applications that let you use fonts: We need to talk about font management.

        i run Kubuntu and when i am editing a document or an image and need to select a font, i am presented with a single scrolling list of all the fonts installed on the system, which is several hundred and includes fonts not only for every language currently used in the world, it also includes languages such as Linear A, which has not been spoken in more than 3500 years! Now it's great that my system can display all these different things, and it's really useful in a multilingual environment such as the social media services i use, but at the same time when i need to find a font to use for my own languages it becomes and overwhelming task! We need to fix this.

        What we need is for font selectors to have a way to filter the fonts displayed to you. Preferably a filter by language, though i can see how that would need a lot of work and cooperation from the font package maintainers since the language isn't really a characteristic stored in a font file as i understand. Being able to filter by other characteristics, such as serif/sans serif would also be useful.

        i recognize that this is not a small or easy task, but i think it is one that desperately needs a solution. And no, uninstalling fonts is not a solution since that breaks the display of text in social media by people from other countries. Breaking the ability to communicate across international borders is not the solution to managing the list of available fonts.

        i really don't know how to get this message to the right people, so i'm throwing it out into the Fediverse in the hope that someone either knows of a good workaround, or can point me in the direction of who to talk to in order to get the conversation about this issue started among the right people.

        #debian #ubuntu #gnu #gimp #linux #kde #gnome #fonts

        moriel@chaosfem.twM This user is from outside of this forum
        moriel@chaosfem.twM This user is from outside of this forum
        moriel@chaosfem.tw
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        #3

        For what it's worth, the comments on this github page turned out to be useful. The script itself hid too much, but i can possibly use this to tweak things to be acceptable. It's not a user friendly way to have to do things, though.

        https://gist.github.com/jimmckeeth/6314cf5c50e225b8954641f8b9df379e

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        • moriel@chaosfem.twM moriel@chaosfem.tw

          Attention developers of KDE, Gnome, Libreoffice, GIMP, and any and all applications that let you use fonts: We need to talk about font management.

          i run Kubuntu and when i am editing a document or an image and need to select a font, i am presented with a single scrolling list of all the fonts installed on the system, which is several hundred and includes fonts not only for every language currently used in the world, it also includes languages such as Linear A, which has not been spoken in more than 3500 years! Now it's great that my system can display all these different things, and it's really useful in a multilingual environment such as the social media services i use, but at the same time when i need to find a font to use for my own languages it becomes and overwhelming task! We need to fix this.

          What we need is for font selectors to have a way to filter the fonts displayed to you. Preferably a filter by language, though i can see how that would need a lot of work and cooperation from the font package maintainers since the language isn't really a characteristic stored in a font file as i understand. Being able to filter by other characteristics, such as serif/sans serif would also be useful.

          i recognize that this is not a small or easy task, but i think it is one that desperately needs a solution. And no, uninstalling fonts is not a solution since that breaks the display of text in social media by people from other countries. Breaking the ability to communicate across international borders is not the solution to managing the list of available fonts.

          i really don't know how to get this message to the right people, so i'm throwing it out into the Fediverse in the hope that someone either knows of a good workaround, or can point me in the direction of who to talk to in order to get the conversation about this issue started among the right people.

          #debian #ubuntu #gnu #gimp #linux #kde #gnome #fonts

          eleanor@chaosfem.twE This user is from outside of this forum
          eleanor@chaosfem.twE This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @moriel I don't know off the top of my head how libreoffice integrates with the system font dialog in elementary OS, but fwiw, elementary OS already does this:

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