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  • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

    So we hear people complaining wind turbine blades supposedly can't be recycled. This isn't true, but even if it were: over its lifetime, a large wind turbine (11MW, offshore), will generate the electrical equivalent of burning ~200,000 tons of coal in an efficient thermal power plant. The total weight of these terrible blades? 100 tons. So spare me the whining.

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    @bert_hubert at our firm we partnered with KoiosTitan from Maastricht (https://koiostitan.com/nl/) to recycle the turbine blades from our windfarm at Sint Annapolder. Not easy but we are pioneering, things will become easier over time. So we definitely will be recycling turbine blades going forward. Article in Dutch: https://www.dekleurvangeld.nl/artikelen/2026/van-windturbineblad-tot-bouwmateriaal-een-circulaire-oplossing-met-toekomst

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    • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

      So we hear people complaining wind turbine blades supposedly can't be recycled. This isn't true, but even if it were: over its lifetime, a large wind turbine (11MW, offshore), will generate the electrical equivalent of burning ~200,000 tons of coal in an efficient thermal power plant. The total weight of these terrible blades? 100 tons. So spare me the whining.

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      @bert_hubert you can't fact yourself out of ... well people just wanting to hate these things because... they researched stuff themselves... ...

      ...

      .....

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      • deedo@mastodon.nlD deedo@mastodon.nl

        @bert_hubert you can't fact yourself out of ... well people just wanting to hate these things because... they researched stuff themselves... ...

        ...

        .....

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        @deedo I write this to make YOUR life easier! https://berthub.eu/articles/posts/corona-en-je-oom/ has some reasoning on this.

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        • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

          So we hear people complaining wind turbine blades supposedly can't be recycled. This isn't true, but even if it were: over its lifetime, a large wind turbine (11MW, offshore), will generate the electrical equivalent of burning ~200,000 tons of coal in an efficient thermal power plant. The total weight of these terrible blades? 100 tons. So spare me the whining.

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          @bert_hubert 99.9% recyclable anyway https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/uk-first-sees-decommissioning-of-scottishpower-wind-farm-demonstrate-turbine-circularity-01-09-2026/

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          • woutervanmaanen@mastodon.greenW woutervanmaanen@mastodon.green

            @bert_hubert at our firm we partnered with KoiosTitan from Maastricht (https://koiostitan.com/nl/) to recycle the turbine blades from our windfarm at Sint Annapolder. Not easy but we are pioneering, things will become easier over time. So we definitely will be recycling turbine blades going forward. Article in Dutch: https://www.dekleurvangeld.nl/artikelen/2026/van-windturbineblad-tot-bouwmateriaal-een-circulaire-oplossing-met-toekomst

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            @woutervanmaanen @bert_hubert

            From the description this seems to be 'downcycling'. Still a good thing.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downcycling

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            • hyc@mastodon.socialH hyc@mastodon.social

              @bert_hubert 99.9% recyclable anyway https://www.newcivilengineer.com/latest/uk-first-sees-decommissioning-of-scottishpower-wind-farm-demonstrate-turbine-circularity-01-09-2026/

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              @hyc @bert_hubert not arguing but this seems like an old technology... I would assume currently produced wind farms use a lot more composite materials?

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              • petko@social.petko.meP petko@social.petko.me

                @hyc @bert_hubert not arguing but this seems like an old technology... I would assume currently produced wind farms use a lot more composite materials?

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                #8

                @petko @bert_hubert the debate has always been that existing turbines will be toxic landfill when they reach EOL, which is simply false. And newer tech is even more easily reused, not less.

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                • hyc@mastodon.socialH hyc@mastodon.social

                  @petko @bert_hubert the debate has always been that existing turbines will be toxic landfill when they reach EOL, which is simply false. And newer tech is even more easily reused, not less.

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                  @hyc @bert_hubert I thought they were saying that about solar panels... The debate I've heard about wind is that it kills birds and that it creates noise. Never have I heard that their blades aren't recycleable... I'm just saying I can see where they're coming from if current tech is (toxic) glass/carbon fiber bonded with (toxic) resin. The question is whether production would ever be that large to make any relevant difference when decommissioned in however many decades...

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                  • petko@social.petko.meP petko@social.petko.me

                    @hyc @bert_hubert I thought they were saying that about solar panels... The debate I've heard about wind is that it kills birds and that it creates noise. Never have I heard that their blades aren't recycleable... I'm just saying I can see where they're coming from if current tech is (toxic) glass/carbon fiber bonded with (toxic) resin. The question is whether production would ever be that large to make any relevant difference when decommissioned in however many decades...

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                    @petko @hyc 200,000 tons of coal. Relate to that please.

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                    • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

                      So we hear people complaining wind turbine blades supposedly can't be recycled. This isn't true, but even if it were: over its lifetime, a large wind turbine (11MW, offshore), will generate the electrical equivalent of burning ~200,000 tons of coal in an efficient thermal power plant. The total weight of these terrible blades? 100 tons. So spare me the whining.

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                      @bert_hubert I agree entirely. I'm curious about whether there are enough particulates left over from burning 200,000 tons of coal that it also creates more total solid waste than those turbine blades (in addition to the terrible environmental, health, and economic costs)

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                      • cargot_robbie@urbanists.socialC cargot_robbie@urbanists.social

                        @bert_hubert I agree entirely. I'm curious about whether there are enough particulates left over from burning 200,000 tons of coal that it also creates more total solid waste than those turbine blades (in addition to the terrible environmental, health, and economic costs)

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                        @cargot_robbie you really dig coal it appears to even consider that 200,000 tons of coal might be better.

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                        • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

                          @cargot_robbie you really dig coal it appears to even consider that 200,000 tons of coal might be better.

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                          @bert_hubert that isn't what I was trying to suggest at all, I'm sorry I wasn't more clear

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                          • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

                            So we hear people complaining wind turbine blades supposedly can't be recycled. This isn't true, but even if it were: over its lifetime, a large wind turbine (11MW, offshore), will generate the electrical equivalent of burning ~200,000 tons of coal in an efficient thermal power plant. The total weight of these terrible blades? 100 tons. So spare me the whining.

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                            @bert_hubert I think it would be more impressive, if you'd show the numbers of how much radioactive waste coal plants produce vs the weight of a few wind turbine blades. (emphasis on "radioactive")

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                            • petko@social.petko.meP petko@social.petko.me

                              @hyc @bert_hubert not arguing but this seems like an old technology... I would assume currently produced wind farms use a lot more composite materials?

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                              @petko did you ever hear someone argue the same for modern airplanes? Full of composites (and often just left behind in a dessert after decommissioning) @hyc @bert_hubert

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                              • cejjacobs@mastodon.socialC cejjacobs@mastodon.social

                                @petko did you ever hear someone argue the same for modern airplanes? Full of composites (and often just left behind in a dessert after decommissioning) @hyc @bert_hubert

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                                @cejjacobs @petko @bert_hubert yep it was always just fossil fuel industry propaganda

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                                • attilakinali@society.oftrolls.comA attilakinali@society.oftrolls.com

                                  @bert_hubert I think it would be more impressive, if you'd show the numbers of how much radioactive waste coal plants produce vs the weight of a few wind turbine blades. (emphasis on "radioactive")

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                                  @attilakinali feel free to dig up that data & craft your own toot.

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                                  • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

                                    So we hear people complaining wind turbine blades supposedly can't be recycled. This isn't true, but even if it were: over its lifetime, a large wind turbine (11MW, offshore), will generate the electrical equivalent of burning ~200,000 tons of coal in an efficient thermal power plant. The total weight of these terrible blades? 100 tons. So spare me the whining.

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                                    @bert_hubert

                                    > ~200,000 tons of coal

                                    ~200 gigagram

                                    > 100 tons

                                    0.1 gigagram

                                    The blades are about half a promille of the carbon emissions saved over the (pessimistic) life time of the turbine.

                                    Cry me a river..

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                                    • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

                                      So we hear people complaining wind turbine blades supposedly can't be recycled. This isn't true, but even if it were: over its lifetime, a large wind turbine (11MW, offshore), will generate the electrical equivalent of burning ~200,000 tons of coal in an efficient thermal power plant. The total weight of these terrible blades? 100 tons. So spare me the whining.

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                                      @bert_hubert recently saw a docementary about blade repair, which was done while still mounted or in the field for bigger damages/repairs. Quite impressive stuff, they repair lightningstrike damage, etc and extend the blade's life a lot.

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                                      • bert_hubert@eupolicy.socialB bert_hubert@eupolicy.social

                                        So we hear people complaining wind turbine blades supposedly can't be recycled. This isn't true, but even if it were: over its lifetime, a large wind turbine (11MW, offshore), will generate the electrical equivalent of burning ~200,000 tons of coal in an efficient thermal power plant. The total weight of these terrible blades? 100 tons. So spare me the whining.

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                                        @bert_hubert The turbine blade hoax is of the greatest fossil industry lies
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                                        • petko@social.petko.meP petko@social.petko.me

                                          @hyc @bert_hubert I thought they were saying that about solar panels... The debate I've heard about wind is that it kills birds and that it creates noise. Never have I heard that their blades aren't recycleable... I'm just saying I can see where they're coming from if current tech is (toxic) glass/carbon fiber bonded with (toxic) resin. The question is whether production would ever be that large to make any relevant difference when decommissioned in however many decades...

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                                          @petko @hyc @bert_hubert The blades as non-recyclable is a big part of the debate for some people because some countries (Austria, Finland, Germany and the Netherlands) have legally binding bans in place that stop you from sending blades to landfill. So the question is, what to do with them. Big players are thinking about this but there isn’t a standard solution.

                                          (Not commenting on the rest of the debate here, just for clarity)

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