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  • andthisismrspeacock@mas.toA andthisismrspeacock@mas.to

    A weird thing about living in #Massachusetts is constantly having other Americans tell you the life you live every day is impossible.

    "You can't tax billionaires, they'll leave."

    We have been, and they didn't.

    "You can't legalize weed, it will increase crime."

    We did, and it didn't.

    "You can't make public transit free, it will cost too much."

    We did, and it didn't.

    And on and on, and the lesson to learn is don't listen to the billionaire media professional whiners and just do what's right for your community AND IT WORKS! But I still have to listen to this stupid shit every day.

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    #16

    @andthisismrspeacock

    I am an abolitionist. Communities who defund and abolish police see crime drop. In my community police drive brand new cars and get all the newest best tech, including new buildings with beautiful landscaping and statues. Meanwhile in the same little town our public schools use 30-year-old science books and their teachers use 30 to 40-year-old curriculums. But when I say defend police people say, "but we need them". No, we do not. That is an ugly lie.

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    • switch@tenforward.socialS switch@tenforward.social

      @Muse_Lux I'm Swiss and have been living in France almost all my life. Switzerland is a kind of USA lite, in that it's mostly an economically conservative place, with very expensive private insurances, rents are high, etc. France is still better but as Europe is pushing for free market bullshit, French social security and every other public services have been under attack from capitalists for decades and it's getting more expensive to have a decent life. @andthisismrspeacock

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      #17

      @switch @Muse_Lux @andthisismrspeacock having moved from the UK where the NHS is free at the point of service to France where there is a complex mix of public and private I can honestly say the so called brilliant French system isn't that great. I'm not saying the NHS is the best, but decades of attack from private companies and the right have degraded both systems to their current breaking point.

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      • apostateenglishman@mastodon.worldA apostateenglishman@mastodon.world

        @andthisismrspeacock The taxing the rich thing is hilarious to me, because most of those calling for caps on their wealth couldn't give two hoots if they decide to leave. We see them as parasitic on the rest of society, so why would it bother us if they buggered off? 🤷🏻‍♂️

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        #18

        @ApostateEnglishman @andthisismrspeacock The thing the rich mostly value is time. You can't buy time. People who run a multimillion dollar yearly tab on private jets for that extra time are simply not going to move somewhere inconvenient just because their taxes went up. In fact they may not even notice. Their accountant has graphs that go up and down based on market shifts by vastly more than a tax change.

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        • andthisismrspeacock@mas.toA andthisismrspeacock@mas.to

          A weird thing about living in #Massachusetts is constantly having other Americans tell you the life you live every day is impossible.

          "You can't tax billionaires, they'll leave."

          We have been, and they didn't.

          "You can't legalize weed, it will increase crime."

          We did, and it didn't.

          "You can't make public transit free, it will cost too much."

          We did, and it didn't.

          And on and on, and the lesson to learn is don't listen to the billionaire media professional whiners and just do what's right for your community AND IT WORKS! But I still have to listen to this stupid shit every day.

          quasit@beige.partyQ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #19

          @andthisismrspeacock
          One thing we CAN'T have in Massachusetts, though, is rent control. On that point the Democratic and Republican political leadership absolutely agree. And that's why my rent has more than doubled in the last 11 years.

          #RentControl #GeneralStrike

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          • muse_lux@ohai.socialM muse_lux@ohai.social

            @andthisismrspeacock I am a US citizen living in Australia. I moved here after marrying an Australian. I remember all the things said in the US. You can't have free education, it will cost too much! Well we have free and affordable education in Australia. You can't have free medical help and subsidised medicine, it will cost too much! Nope, it costs less when people are healthy. On and on!

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            #20

            @Muse_Lux
            It's weird how the US is so much about keeping people down, yet Americans think it's the greatest country in the world.

            I've never understood.

            There are a few categories where the US will be the best, but I don't think they are in the majority on categories good for their citizens / residents.
            @andthisismrspeacock

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            • drajt@fosstodon.orgD drajt@fosstodon.org

              @switch @Muse_Lux @andthisismrspeacock having moved from the UK where the NHS is free at the point of service to France where there is a complex mix of public and private I can honestly say the so called brilliant French system isn't that great. I'm not saying the NHS is the best, but decades of attack from private companies and the right have degraded both systems to their current breaking point.

              switch@tenforward.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #21

              @drajt this, so much. Mandatory employer's health insurance was and still is a bad idea. Before this, there were a few private insurance companies which had a few million clients each. So costs were evenly distributed amongst these million people. Now, each employer has its own insurance contract for its own employees. One expensive health procedure's cost for one employee must be paid for by a few dozens or hundreds employees. It's shit. @Muse_Lux @andthisismrspeacock

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              • switch@tenforward.socialS switch@tenforward.social

                @drajt this, so much. Mandatory employer's health insurance was and still is a bad idea. Before this, there were a few private insurance companies which had a few million clients each. So costs were evenly distributed amongst these million people. Now, each employer has its own insurance contract for its own employees. One expensive health procedure's cost for one employee must be paid for by a few dozens or hundreds employees. It's shit. @Muse_Lux @andthisismrspeacock

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                #22

                @switch @Muse_Lux @andthisismrspeacock apparently the French mutual medical insurance companies spend around 50% of their income on advertising and other customer retention things, and that's before you consider their staff overheads. It's very inefficient and wasteful, I'd much prefer higher national insurance and less bother.

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                • andthisismrspeacock@mas.toA andthisismrspeacock@mas.to

                  A weird thing about living in #Massachusetts is constantly having other Americans tell you the life you live every day is impossible.

                  "You can't tax billionaires, they'll leave."

                  We have been, and they didn't.

                  "You can't legalize weed, it will increase crime."

                  We did, and it didn't.

                  "You can't make public transit free, it will cost too much."

                  We did, and it didn't.

                  And on and on, and the lesson to learn is don't listen to the billionaire media professional whiners and just do what's right for your community AND IT WORKS! But I still have to listen to this stupid shit every day.

                  swachter@toot.bostonS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #23

                  @andthisismrspeacock Relatives talk about the scourge of fifteen minute cities and I’m like, I live in one, it’s amazing, I can walk to like eight libraries, twenty banks/ATMs, thirty grocery stores, and a literally uncountable number of good restaurants within two miles. Why would you not want this.

                  christo_459@mastodon.me.ukC silver_buttercat@kolektiva.socialS dragonfrog@mastodon.sdf.orgD 3 Replies Last reply
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                  • andthisismrspeacock@mas.toA andthisismrspeacock@mas.to

                    A weird thing about living in #Massachusetts is constantly having other Americans tell you the life you live every day is impossible.

                    "You can't tax billionaires, they'll leave."

                    We have been, and they didn't.

                    "You can't legalize weed, it will increase crime."

                    We did, and it didn't.

                    "You can't make public transit free, it will cost too much."

                    We did, and it didn't.

                    And on and on, and the lesson to learn is don't listen to the billionaire media professional whiners and just do what's right for your community AND IT WORKS! But I still have to listen to this stupid shit every day.

                    guyjantic@infosec.exchangeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #24

                    @andthisismrspeacock "you can't have an accent out of some movie"

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                    • andthisismrspeacock@mas.toA andthisismrspeacock@mas.to

                      A weird thing about living in #Massachusetts is constantly having other Americans tell you the life you live every day is impossible.

                      "You can't tax billionaires, they'll leave."

                      We have been, and they didn't.

                      "You can't legalize weed, it will increase crime."

                      We did, and it didn't.

                      "You can't make public transit free, it will cost too much."

                      We did, and it didn't.

                      And on and on, and the lesson to learn is don't listen to the billionaire media professional whiners and just do what's right for your community AND IT WORKS! But I still have to listen to this stupid shit every day.

                      catwoman69y2k@meow.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #25

                      @andthisismrspeacock I dont live in Massachusetts, but this is relatable (for my state)

                      Self-fulfilling prophecies

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                      • andthisismrspeacock@mas.toA andthisismrspeacock@mas.to

                        A weird thing about living in #Massachusetts is constantly having other Americans tell you the life you live every day is impossible.

                        "You can't tax billionaires, they'll leave."

                        We have been, and they didn't.

                        "You can't legalize weed, it will increase crime."

                        We did, and it didn't.

                        "You can't make public transit free, it will cost too much."

                        We did, and it didn't.

                        And on and on, and the lesson to learn is don't listen to the billionaire media professional whiners and just do what's right for your community AND IT WORKS! But I still have to listen to this stupid shit every day.

                        cczona@hachyderm.ioC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #26

                        @andthisismrspeacock a couple months after Malta made public transit free nationwide (it's a small archipelago, so public transit includes buses and ferries), billionaire Peter Thiel applied for Maltese citizenship. He didn't care about the free ferry rides; I'm sure he has a fleet of yachts and speedboats for that. He wanted the EU membership rights. The reality is that billionaires want to be wherever quality of life is high. While they may be annoyed by the fact that socialist policies benefit people other than themselves, because billionaires are by definition selfish horder bastards, they value their own good life too much to go live where everyone else suffers as much as the billionaires think we peons should. It's idiocy to build policy around desperately trying to keep billionaire tax evaders in residence anyway. If they want to leave, excellent. Good riddance to their resource-draining asses.

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                        • andthisismrspeacock@mas.toA andthisismrspeacock@mas.to

                          A weird thing about living in #Massachusetts is constantly having other Americans tell you the life you live every day is impossible.

                          "You can't tax billionaires, they'll leave."

                          We have been, and they didn't.

                          "You can't legalize weed, it will increase crime."

                          We did, and it didn't.

                          "You can't make public transit free, it will cost too much."

                          We did, and it didn't.

                          And on and on, and the lesson to learn is don't listen to the billionaire media professional whiners and just do what's right for your community AND IT WORKS! But I still have to listen to this stupid shit every day.

                          eivind@fribygda.noE This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #27

                          @andthisismrspeacock I'm not an ecopath by training, but I have been trying to read up on it, and it's still a bit unclear to me what the loss is if some of the previously un-taxed billionaires move away when taxes are imposed?

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                          • etchedpixels@mastodon.socialE etchedpixels@mastodon.social

                            @ApostateEnglishman @andthisismrspeacock The thing the rich mostly value is time. You can't buy time. People who run a multimillion dollar yearly tab on private jets for that extra time are simply not going to move somewhere inconvenient just because their taxes went up. In fact they may not even notice. Their accountant has graphs that go up and down based on market shifts by vastly more than a tax change.

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                            #28

                            @etchedpixels

                            I think you've hit the nail on the head.

                            The flip side, being poor, is miserable because, in large part, your time is not your own, and what little time you do have, is spent on stupid crap that wealthier people can bypass.

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                            • andthisismrspeacock@mas.toA andthisismrspeacock@mas.to

                              A weird thing about living in #Massachusetts is constantly having other Americans tell you the life you live every day is impossible.

                              "You can't tax billionaires, they'll leave."

                              We have been, and they didn't.

                              "You can't legalize weed, it will increase crime."

                              We did, and it didn't.

                              "You can't make public transit free, it will cost too much."

                              We did, and it didn't.

                              And on and on, and the lesson to learn is don't listen to the billionaire media professional whiners and just do what's right for your community AND IT WORKS! But I still have to listen to this stupid shit every day.

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                              #29

                              @andthisismrspeacock

                              Even if the billionaires left, would that not be a bonus?

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                              • adamvs1@mastodon.worldA adamvs1@mastodon.world

                                @andthisismrspeacock This needs to be repeated even in so-called “Socialist” Canada. This stuff worked so well(subsidize ‘the poors’, etc) during the pandemic the billionaires went full-court press(pun intended) to say it didn’t.

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                                #30

                                @adamvs1

                                This. So much this.

                                Our government (US) was terrified of the George Floyd protests and what could happen if people weren't kept constantly scrabbling to make rent.

                                They chose COVID denial to protect wealth and power structures, and people are continuing to die and become disabled because of it.

                                @andthisismrspeacock

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                                • swachter@toot.bostonS swachter@toot.boston

                                  @andthisismrspeacock Relatives talk about the scourge of fifteen minute cities and I’m like, I live in one, it’s amazing, I can walk to like eight libraries, twenty banks/ATMs, thirty grocery stores, and a literally uncountable number of good restaurants within two miles. Why would you not want this.

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                                  #31

                                  @swachter @andthisismrspeacock
                                  I also live in a 15 min city. Library, GP, dental , restaurants, cafes, everything we want within walking or bus ride

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                                  • guyjantic@infosec.exchangeG guyjantic@infosec.exchange

                                    @andthisismrspeacock "you can't have an accent out of some movie"

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                                    #32

                                    @guyjantic I dunno what yah tawhkin about guy

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                                    • human3500@ottawa.placeH human3500@ottawa.place

                                      @Muse_Lux
                                      It's weird how the US is so much about keeping people down, yet Americans think it's the greatest country in the world.

                                      I've never understood.

                                      There are a few categories where the US will be the best, but I don't think they are in the majority on categories good for their citizens / residents.
                                      @andthisismrspeacock

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                                      #33

                                      @human3500 @Muse_Lux Something I will never understand is not only not wanting nice things for yourself, but working so hard to make sure nobody else can have nice things, either.

                                      Like the 15 minute city thing. If you want to live in a chipboard-and-vinyl hellscape out by the six lane arterial, fine! Why insist on fucking with the people who don't want that?

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                                      • christo_459@mastodon.me.ukC christo_459@mastodon.me.uk

                                        @swachter @andthisismrspeacock
                                        I also live in a 15 min city. Library, GP, dental , restaurants, cafes, everything we want within walking or bus ride

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                                        #34

                                        @Christo_459 @swachter Idk sounds a lot like my snobby coastal elitist city where I can walk to the post office, hardware store, grocery, 7-11, liquor store, butcher, bakery, Chinese, Thai, Vietnamese, Italian, Sushi, Sports Pub, half a dozen pizza places, barber, dentist, salon, some coffee shops, and a vacuum cleaner repair place.

                                        And everything else I can get to on the snobby coastal elitist bus or train, which I ride, elitistly. 😆

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                                        • andthisismrspeacock@mas.toA andthisismrspeacock@mas.to

                                          A weird thing about living in #Massachusetts is constantly having other Americans tell you the life you live every day is impossible.

                                          "You can't tax billionaires, they'll leave."

                                          We have been, and they didn't.

                                          "You can't legalize weed, it will increase crime."

                                          We did, and it didn't.

                                          "You can't make public transit free, it will cost too much."

                                          We did, and it didn't.

                                          And on and on, and the lesson to learn is don't listen to the billionaire media professional whiners and just do what's right for your community AND IT WORKS! But I still have to listen to this stupid shit every day.

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                                          #35

                                          @andthisismrspeacock
                                          "You can't have public healthcare in a country as big as the US, it wouldn't work"
                                          I'm Brazilian, we are the country closest in size to the US, we have public healthcare despite having fewer resources

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