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  • ferricoxide@blahaj.zoneF ferricoxide@blahaj.zone

    @eff@mastodon.social

    At least with a standalone smart camera, you can mount them in ways that constrains their view to
    just your property. Unfortunately, with the ways most porches are laid out, that's all but impossible with a doorbell camera.

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    #14

    @eff@mastodon.social

    Also, just because you opt out, should we have
    any confidence that they aren't still using your camera for these purposes? Do we really think they'll be satisfied leaving holes in their surveillance nets when they can just silently closing those holes? I mean, they were supposed to get owners' consent before sharing with police, but that seemed to be done with a wink and a nod. I imagine the Flock arrangement will show owners' preferences being similarly bypassesd.

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    • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

      Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
      https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

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      #15

      @eff I wouldn't touch Ring cameras with a ten foot pole, but I'm still subject to surveillance by my neighbor's Ring cameras.

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      • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

        Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
        https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

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        #16

        @eff oh boy the future is bright!

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        • eva@mindly.socialE eva@mindly.social

          @eff I was horrified when I saw that commercial.

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          #17

          @eva @eff yeah my first thought was uhh hey Ring, read the room...
          I've edited a version of their ad to show what I saw...

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          • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

            Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
            https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

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            #18

            @eff are there any recommended alternatives to ring?

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            • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

              Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
              https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

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              #19

              @eff
              https://www.hamiltonnolan.com/p/remove-your-ring-camera-with-a-claw?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=1536173&post_id=187505604

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              • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
                https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

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                #20

                @eff

                🔨 An alternate method to disable the feature. 🔨

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                • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                  Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
                  https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

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                  #21

                  @eff

                  Reddit is PISSED and theyre organising Ring Camera mass returns to Amazon

                  Ring camera fascism.

                  #ring #Nazi #ice #surveillance

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                  • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                    Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
                    https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

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                    #22

                    @eff
                    Amazon has been in the surveillance and data collection and data mining game for most of its years.

                    They even tried to buy Roomba, which exists to send 3d images of your floor plan back to h.q. under the guise of cleaning.

                    IOT was never about our convenience. It was always about surveillance.

                    Do people really not know these things or are they waiting for the bandwagon to feel some kind of way?

                    None of this is new.
                    #surveillance #ring #amazon

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                    • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                      Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
                      https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

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                      #23

                      @eff better, just get rid of ring entirely

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                      • faduda@mastodon.ieF faduda@mastodon.ie

                        @Parkersavage @kevinrns @eff

                        Guys, there comes a point when you need to kill it with hammers.

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                        #24

                        @faduda @Parkersavage @kevinrns @eff THIS!!!

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                        • kryten@veganism.socialK kryten@veganism.social

                          @eff are there any recommended alternatives to ring?

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                          #25

                          @kryten @eff An old fashioned doorbell.

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                          • nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.socialN nazokiyoubinbou@mastodon.social

                            @eff Thankfully I already disabled this "feature" (it's two parts. I see one for fires and one for pets.) I also enabled video encryption for whatever good that does. (Supposedly makes it harder for them to share? Yeah, I don't particularly trust it, but if that is what it takes...)

                            God I wish I could just get rid of the thing, but I have $1 in my wallet right now... (And yes, I need video.)

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                            #26

                            @eff @nazokiyoubinbou

                            Don't take my word for it because if it doesn't work you'll be in a bad place but I've seen some people on reddit getting full refunds after claiming that the changed ToS means that this is no longer the device they bought or something like that.

                            If you can do that and use the money for a Eufy one or another system that works locally that could be a good idea (although that is a big if)

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                            • rayocentric@mastodon.socialR rayocentric@mastodon.social

                              @eff
                              Amazon has been in the surveillance and data collection and data mining game for most of its years.

                              They even tried to buy Roomba, which exists to send 3d images of your floor plan back to h.q. under the guise of cleaning.

                              IOT was never about our convenience. It was always about surveillance.

                              Do people really not know these things or are they waiting for the bandwagon to feel some kind of way?

                              None of this is new.
                              #surveillance #ring #amazon

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                              #27

                              @eff @rayocentric

                              They tried to buy roomba but the EU started asking too many questions about the deal and they abandoned it, another point for strong antitrust regulations

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                              • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                                @eff @rayocentric

                                They tried to buy roomba but the EU started asking too many questions about the deal and they abandoned it, another point for strong antitrust regulations

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                                #28

                                @gbargoud Thanks for keeping me honest. Last I heard, it was a done deal... but that was awhile ago.

                                In any case, we all know a little bit more about Roomba. Thanks again, though.

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                                • rayocentric@mastodon.socialR rayocentric@mastodon.social

                                  @gbargoud Thanks for keeping me honest. Last I heard, it was a done deal... but that was awhile ago.

                                  In any case, we all know a little bit more about Roomba. Thanks again, though.

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                                  #29

                                  @gbargoud I'm keeping my error up so more people can fact check me. You're the hero of this thread.

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                                  • rayocentric@mastodon.socialR rayocentric@mastodon.social

                                    @gbargoud Thanks for keeping me honest. Last I heard, it was a done deal... but that was awhile ago.

                                    In any case, we all know a little bit more about Roomba. Thanks again, though.

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                                    #30

                                    @rayocentric

                                    I thought it was a done deal a year or so ago when I looked it up for whatever reason and was surprised to see that they don't always get their way.

                                    PS. I would recommend just changing "bought" to "tried to buy", your point would still stand

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                                    • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                                      @rayocentric

                                      I thought it was a done deal a year or so ago when I looked it up for whatever reason and was surprised to see that they don't always get their way.

                                      PS. I would recommend just changing "bought" to "tried to buy", your point would still stand

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                                      #31

                                      @gbargoud
                                      Advice taken. Thanks yet again. I'm planting your flag on this thread cuz you saved it twice.

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                                      • eff@mastodon.socialE eff@mastodon.social

                                        Ring has announced a new “Search Party” feature that could eventually bring mass biometric surveillance to our streets. It’s on by default. Shut it off.
                                        https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/02/no-one-including-our-furry-friends-will-be-safer-rings-surveillance-nightmare-0

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                                        #32

                                        @eff @earthlingusa I’m so glad I talked myself out of the Ring doorbell idea last year. This seems like something straight out of dystopian science fiction.

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                                        • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                                          @rayocentric

                                          I thought it was a done deal a year or so ago when I looked it up for whatever reason and was surprised to see that they don't always get their way.

                                          PS. I would recommend just changing "bought" to "tried to buy", your point would still stand

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                                          #33

                                          @gbargoud
                                          Meanwhile, Dutch police advise people to get a Ring 🙄 They even launched a website (https://www.politie.nl/informatie/aanmelden-camera-in-beeld.html) where people can register their camera to be part of a surveillance chain. The name and address of an owner of a camera capturing a crime are visible to lawyers defending the criminals. It's all so bad, and all the sheep happily jump on the same boat.
                                          That being said, a family member was traumatised after a horrible robbery at home. A Ring is now in place.

                                          @rayocentric

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