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  3. CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card.

CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card.

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  • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

    @TrueNorthSpice It's a big change to the rules in Alberta and it hasn't been communicated. With only three months to the referendum on separation, it is barely enough time for people to source documents from other jurisdictions.

    The advertising campaign says nothing about marriage certificates being required for women who've changed their names. This omission from the marketing doesn't seem accidental.

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    #13

    @JEmphatically @TrueNorthSpice it's especially pernicious given that past polling puts males far more likely to vote for separation and females much more likely to vote to remain.
    I'm sure no one at all (ouch that eye roll hurt) has factored that in...

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    • ryencode@mstdn.caR ryencode@mstdn.ca

      @JEmphatically @TrueNorthSpice it's especially pernicious given that past polling puts males far more likely to vote for separation and females much more likely to vote to remain.
      I'm sure no one at all (ouch that eye roll hurt) has factored that in...

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      #14

      @RyeNCode @JEmphatically

      Good point.

      ( feeling the same eye pain too often lately)

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      • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

        CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

        She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

        We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

        These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

        *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

        Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

        This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

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        #15

        @JEmphatically

        Normally, there's a local or state/provincial office or court clerk that can issue certified copies of things like birth, marriage and/or change of name certificates.

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        • truenorthspice@mastodon.worldT truenorthspice@mastodon.world

          @RyeNCode @JEmphatically

          Good point.

          ( feeling the same eye pain too often lately)

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          #16

          @TrueNorthSpice @JEmphatically
          For someone who hates in trans people so much,
          Daniel Smith sure seems to act as though she's Just one of the Boys.

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          • ryencode@mstdn.caR ryencode@mstdn.ca

            @TrueNorthSpice @JEmphatically
            For someone who hates in trans people so much,
            Daniel Smith sure seems to act as though she's Just one of the Boys.

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            #17

            @RyeNCode @JEmphatically

            ( snort and half laugh)
            Yeah, I noticed the same.

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            • josh0@babka.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #18

              @samk @JEmphatically Alberta is in Canada…

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              • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                @TrueNorthSpice It's a big change to the rules in Alberta and it hasn't been communicated. With only three months to the referendum on separation, it is barely enough time for people to source documents from other jurisdictions.

                The advertising campaign says nothing about marriage certificates being required for women who've changed their names. This omission from the marketing doesn't seem accidental.

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                #19

                @JEmphatically @McRocker @TrueNorthSpice wtf???

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                • huntingdon@mstdn.socialH huntingdon@mstdn.social

                  @JEmphatically

                  Normally, there's a local or state/provincial office or court clerk that can issue certified copies of things like birth, marriage and/or change of name certificates.

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                  #20

                  @huntingdon In my mom's case, she was born and married in another province in eastern Canada. I'm sure there are others in the same situation. The registry office (privatized service, btw) told her she would need to contact the other province for proof of marriage. I'm just so glad we found the original. Now, another visit in a week or so and fingers crossed they'll accept the 1964 paper document that is mostly handwritten. 😳

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                  • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                    CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                    She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                    We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                    These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                    *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                    Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                    This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

                    npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #21

                    @JEmphatically

                    ID requirements target women, immigrants, & the poor deliberately.

                    Alberta's oligarchs fight climate action by kneecapping voting.

                    People like tax evader N. Murray Edwards who profit from oil wars in Iran & high gas prices
                    https://dailyhive.com/calgary/murray-edwards-forbes-billonaires-flames

                    https://environmentaldefence.ca/2024/10/31/murray-edwards-the-fossil-fuel-fanatic/

                    https://financialpost.com/commodities/energy/canadian-billionaire-oil-boss-murray-edwards-moves-to-st-mortiz-switzerland

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N._Murray_Edwards

                    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/murray-edwards-cnrl-alberta-taxes-1.3568199

                    https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/07/04/My-Strange-Canada-Day-Alberta-Separatists/

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                    • truenorthspice@mastodon.worldT truenorthspice@mastodon.world

                      @JEmphatically

                      The rules are the same in Ontario, have been for a long time. It's stupid and annoying and another reason to keep one's surname after marrying ..unfortunately when your mom was married it was unheard of to keep one's maiden name.

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                      #22

                      @TrueNorthSpice one thing about Ontario is that you do not need photo ID to vote (at least not yet).

                      https://www.elections.on.ca/en/voting-in-ontario/id-to-vote-in-provincial-elections.html#accordionIDtovote

                      @JEmphatically

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                      • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                        CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                        She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                        We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                        These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                        *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                        Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                        This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

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                        #23

                        @JEmphatically Very glad I did all the paperwork to get my passport with my married name before the Trump administration nonsense as they're attempting this here in the USA. I'll be sure to NOT let that lapse. My USA naturalization is in my former married name, which I kept after my divorce, so it's a daisy chain of names in my case, as I'm hyphenated with my maiden name and husband's surname now.

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                        • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                          @JEmphatically

                          ID requirements target women, immigrants, & the poor deliberately.

                          Alberta's oligarchs fight climate action by kneecapping voting.

                          People like tax evader N. Murray Edwards who profit from oil wars in Iran & high gas prices
                          https://dailyhive.com/calgary/murray-edwards-forbes-billonaires-flames

                          https://environmentaldefence.ca/2024/10/31/murray-edwards-the-fossil-fuel-fanatic/

                          https://financialpost.com/commodities/energy/canadian-billionaire-oil-boss-murray-edwards-moves-to-st-mortiz-switzerland

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/N._Murray_Edwards

                          https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgary/murray-edwards-cnrl-alberta-taxes-1.3568199

                          https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/07/04/My-Strange-Canada-Day-Alberta-Separatists/

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                          #24

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                          N. Murray Edwards
                          Canada · 66y · Eurofins Scientific, Canadian Natural Resources, BT Group, Vodafone-GBP, AT&T, Advantage Oil & Gas, Arc Resources, AstraZeneca, Baytex Energy, British Amer Tobacco, Calfrac Well Services, Cardinal Energy, Diageo, Ensign Energy, Forza Petroleum, Freehold Royalties, Imperial Metals, InPlay Oil, Magellan Aerospace, Parex Resources, Precision Drilling, RF Capital, Rogers Communications, Suncor Energy, Superior Plus, Topaz Energy, Tourmaline Oil, TransAlta
                          $4.98B

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                          • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                            CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                            She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                            We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                            These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                            *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                            Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                            This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

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                            #25

                            @JEmphatically

                            For reasons, my partner and I chose a new surname. In a different country.

                            I am reasonably sure I could not get a legal copy of the document chain to 'prove' the changes within 3 months.

                            I certainly hope #ACLRC have lawyers briefed and ready to challenge the changes. It sounds to me *prima facie* to violate the Charter.

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                            • lynnd@cosocial.caL lynnd@cosocial.ca

                              @TrueNorthSpice one thing about Ontario is that you do not need photo ID to vote (at least not yet).

                              https://www.elections.on.ca/en/voting-in-ontario/id-to-vote-in-provincial-elections.html#accordionIDtovote

                              @JEmphatically

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                              #26

                              @LynnD @JEmphatically

                              That's true, but it shouldn't have been that difficult to exchange provincial IDs

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                              • nomdeb@mstdn.socialN nomdeb@mstdn.social

                                @JEmphatically Very glad I did all the paperwork to get my passport with my married name before the Trump administration nonsense as they're attempting this here in the USA. I'll be sure to NOT let that lapse. My USA naturalization is in my former married name, which I kept after my divorce, so it's a daisy chain of names in my case, as I'm hyphenated with my maiden name and husband's surname now.

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                                #27

                                @nomdeb Alberta's government came up with the idea of "one ID" for all - your driver's licence, health care card, and proof of citizenship. If you don't drive, you can get a generic ID card, but that also must include your health care number and citizenship status.

                                So, in effect you can't get any government ID renewed without switching to the one ID card version. You must prove citizenship or the card will be marked as non-citizen, which means you won't be able to access certain programs or vote. It's a diabolical workaround of people's rights. Our premier talks on a weekly basis with the US ambassador to Canada and I can't help but wonder if they don't share strategies.

                                CORRECTION: There’s a way around the voting issue. As of today, you can vote WITHOUT using govt issued ID. As of today...

                                See the Elections Alberta website and order your mail-in ballot for the easiest way to vote this October. Yay!

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                                • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                                  CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                                  She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                                  We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                                  These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                                  *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                                  Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                                  This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

                                  humourmetom@newsie.socialH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #28

                                  @JEmphatically Sounds suspiciously like the U.S., just like a lot of stuff happening in Alberta these days

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                                  • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                                    CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                                    She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                                    We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                                    These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                                    *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                                    Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                                    This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

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                                    #29

                                    @JEmphatically Y'all need to stop copying our awful bullshit below you. I'm glad you found her certificate!!

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                                    • jemphatically@mstdn.caJ jemphatically@mstdn.ca

                                      CORRECTION: My 81-year-old mom, who's a widow and has no photo ID was rejected today when we tried to get her a photo ID card. She's been living in Alberta since 1978 and has no current passport.

                                      She had her birth certificate but because she changed her last name when she married in 1964, they could not issue her an ID card without her marriage certificate.

                                      We did not know where she stashed her marriage certificate since she moved into a senior's home 3 years ago.

                                      These new rules are going to confuse a lot of people. She needs photo ID to access her online healthcare info. If you are contacting another province for birth or marriage certificates, that will take time.

                                      *Voting in the upcoming referendum does not require a govt-issued ID. There are other options. Phew!

                                      Luckily for my mom, after searching through an old trunk, we found the original marriage certificate.

                                      This UCP government is pure evil. *I stand by this statement.

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                                      #30

                                      @JEmphatically so if you lose the birth certificate, you're kinda screwed? Doesn't the state have this information in the people registry already?

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                                      • nixanadoo@mastodon.socialN nixanadoo@mastodon.social

                                        @JEmphatically Y'all need to stop copying our awful bullshit below you. I'm glad you found her certificate!!

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                                        #31

                                        @nixanadoo

                                        Danielle Smith (Premier of Alberta) copies it on purpose. She's not a good faith leader. Not by far.

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                                        • jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ jmcrookston@mastodon.social

                                          @nixanadoo

                                          Danielle Smith (Premier of Alberta) copies it on purpose. She's not a good faith leader. Not by far.

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                                          #32

                                          @jmcrookston That's as shitty for y'all as it is for us, my sympathies.

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