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  • daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.netD daemonspudguy@app.wafrn.net

    @zzt@mas.to @c0dec0dec0de@hachyderm.io

    Even when translating to what the phrase is poorly trying to pretend to be different from, I have absolutely no fucking clue what "social warrior project" is meant to convey because "social justice warrior project" is just not a phrase I can make any sense out of. It doesn't scan at all.

    hsza@social.tudbut.deH This user is from outside of this forum
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    #68

    @daemonspudguy @c0dec0dec0de @zzt it is the right-wing nutjob framing of “ethical project”

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    • raster@retro-gaiden.comR raster@retro-gaiden.com

      @zzt This is just the natural outcome.
      The real red flags where when IBM (that is working into AI from more than a decade) buyed Red Hat and when they pushed madly a broken systemD as the usual "it's the FuTuRe" in the same guise they are pushing Wayland... that isn't really ready yet either for a lot of cases.
      With these precedents why the LLMs push is so strange? Is just a normal development for these people.

      grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafeG This user is from outside of this forum
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      #69

      @raster I can not read the conversation here, thanks to @zzt for the block /s

      I see that he enjoys the phrase "fucking slop", so you can point him and his fucking awful.systems to the open (non-blocked) anti-AI discussion linked below.

      Alternatively, with less profanity:

      ― sloppy human systems.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/1vtgx7t/antiai_open_source_has_an_enemy_in_common_but/

      #AI #openness

      mawhrin@circumstances.runM grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafeG carre@mastodon.onlineC 3 Replies Last reply
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      • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

        good thing the linux kernel has multiple frontier models, none of which are capable of generating a C compiler that fucking works

        thank you Meta!

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        #70

        @zzt i am wondering if any of the benchmarks is "generate compiler for arbitrary language and architecture" with a testset that is just arbitrary code to compile amd execute (which is not oart of the context).
        I guess not, that could lead to embaressment and admitting they set a trillion dollars aflame for spicy autocomplete

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        • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

          I really liked having fully working linux systems for… like 7 out of the 30+ years I’ve been using this fucking thing

          we even briefly got gaming before they decided to come and fuck it all up in exchange for money

          glitterbean@wehavecookies.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #71

          @zzt what?

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          • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

            > We are completely overwhelmed, of course. The glimmer of hope is that we secured sufficient LLM budget and access (thank you Meta!) to run reviews with multiple frontier models on each patch. This eliminates some hallucinations.

            jesus christ https://mastodon.catgirl.cloud/@lina/117130089920503564

            paul@notnull.spaceP This user is from outside of this forum
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            #72

            @zzt "some hallucinations" 🤦

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            • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

              good thing the linux kernel has multiple frontier models, none of which are capable of generating a C compiler that fucking works

              thank you Meta!

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              #73

              @zzt
              They embraced, they extended, now comes the extinguishing (even if some of them believe it's extension)

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              • hsza@social.tudbut.deH hsza@social.tudbut.de

                @zzt “we are drowning in slop, the solution is obviously more slop”

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                #74

                @hsza
                "The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a slop extruder is a good guy with a slop extruder"
                @zzt

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                • grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafeG grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  @raster I can not read the conversation here, thanks to @zzt for the block /s

                  I see that he enjoys the phrase "fucking slop", so you can point him and his fucking awful.systems to the open (non-blocked) anti-AI discussion linked below.

                  Alternatively, with less profanity:

                  ― sloppy human systems.

                  https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/1vtgx7t/antiai_open_source_has_an_enemy_in_common_but/

                  #AI #openness

                  mawhrin@circumstances.runM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #75

                  @grahamperrin take the block like a real poster and don't whine about it. (calling reddit “open” is a beautiful joke.)

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                  • mawhrin@circumstances.runM mawhrin@circumstances.run

                    @grahamperrin take the block like a real poster and don't whine about it. (calling reddit “open” is a beautiful joke.)

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                    #76

                    @mawhrin try commenting like a real reader and don't misunderstand what's written.

                    I described a single discussion, not Reddit, as "open (non-blocked) anti-AI".

                    Would you like to know why?

                    Cc @raster

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                    • grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafeG grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                      @mawhrin try commenting like a real reader and don't misunderstand what's written.

                      I described a single discussion, not Reddit, as "open (non-blocked) anti-AI".

                      Would you like to know why?

                      Cc @raster

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                      #77

                      @grahamperrin please do not re-insert into the conversation people i deliberately removed in order to remove clutter in their threads, thanks.

                      i had a look at your timeline and now i do understand why people might not want to communicate with you; i just joined their number.

                      please do not reply, thanks in advance.

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                      • mawhrin@circumstances.runM mawhrin@circumstances.run

                        @grahamperrin please do not re-insert into the conversation people i deliberately removed in order to remove clutter in their threads, thanks.

                        i had a look at your timeline and now i do understand why people might not want to communicate with you; i just joined their number.

                        please do not reply, thanks in advance.

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                        #78

                        @mawhrin don't take an interest without properly knowing the facts and then feign disinterest.

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                        • grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafeG grahamperrin@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                          @raster I can not read the conversation here, thanks to @zzt for the block /s

                          I see that he enjoys the phrase "fucking slop", so you can point him and his fucking awful.systems to the open (non-blocked) anti-AI discussion linked below.

                          Alternatively, with less profanity:

                          ― sloppy human systems.

                          https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/1vtgx7t/antiai_open_source_has_an_enemy_in_common_but/

                          #AI #openness

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                          #79

                          @raster here's the less open public discussion, with greater engagement:

                          FreeBSD, AI, and LLMs

                          https://www.reddit.com/r/freebsd/comments/1vthk9s/freebsd_ai_and_llms/

                          ― including a comment from a member of the FreeBSD Core Team.

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                          • ozzelot@mstdn.socialO ozzelot@mstdn.social

                            @hsza
                            "The only thing that can stop a bad guy with a slop extruder is a good guy with a slop extruder"
                            @zzt

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                            #80

                            @ozzelot @hsza @zzt

                            I miss the days when this used to mean having a poorly configured and setup 3D printer.

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                            • bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB bstacey@icosahedron.website

                              @zzt "Are we the baddies" walked so that "Thank you Meta" could run.

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                              #81

                              @bstacey @zzt That's kind of the root of the problem: Linux has been dependent on corporate development for a long time.

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                              • zzt@mas.toZ zzt@mas.to

                                but nah, I’m sure it’ll be fine, I keep seeing the take on here that somehow the kernel doesn’t matter at all for a desktop and nobody will notice when it breaks

                                you know, the code that literally all of your applications call into, that makes all your hardware work

                                the thing that was the point of being on linux at all

                                the kernel????

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                                #82
                                @zzt can’t wait for more and more events of “bizarre kernel bug fucks up physical hardware entirely”. if only there would be a way of like, not doing that.
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                                • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                                  @zzt counterpoint: all elisp is holy

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                                  #83

                                  @hipsterelectron @zzt Eeeeh, I have written some that I would probably class as "unholy" (and, also, my partial implementation of elisp in Common Lisp was deeply unholy, but there to provide elisp shims for Climacs, don't think it ever got used and certainly never reached full parity).

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                                  • byte@awawa.clubB byte@awawa.club
                                    @zzt can’t wait for more and more events of “bizarre kernel bug fucks up physical hardware entirely”. if only there would be a way of like, not doing that.
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                                    #84

                                    @byte @zzt I want a #deshittified #Linux #Fork…

                                    • Maybe starting with linux-6.6.6 and reintroducing #i386 support instead of axing #i486…
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                                    • vatine@mendeddrum.orgV vatine@mendeddrum.org

                                      @hipsterelectron @zzt Eeeeh, I have written some that I would probably class as "unholy" (and, also, my partial implementation of elisp in Common Lisp was deeply unholy, but there to provide elisp shims for Climacs, don't think it ever got used and certainly never reached full parity).

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                                      #85

                                      @vatine @zzt that's the most evil thing i've ever heard ❤️

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                                      • mawhrin@circumstances.runM mawhrin@circumstances.run

                                        @grahamperrin take the block like a real poster and don't whine about it. (calling reddit “open” is a beautiful joke.)

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                                        #86

                                        @mawhrin lol @ Reddit

                                        To your point...

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                                        • hipsterelectron@circumstances.runH hipsterelectron@circumstances.run

                                          @vatine @zzt that's the most evil thing i've ever heard ❤️

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                                          #87

                                          @hipsterelectron @zzt Sorry, Portable Hemlock, not Climacs.

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