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  3. My daughter sent me this & yes to all of it - I hadn't even thought of the fonts thing, but it's totally on point, too; there's a reason font design is a major speciality skill, you don't just pull something like that out of your ass.

My daughter sent me this & yes to all of it - I hadn't even thought of the fonts thing, but it's totally on point, too; there's a reason font design is a major speciality skill, you don't just pull something like that out of your ass.

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  • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

    My daughter sent me this & yes to all of it - I hadn't even thought of the fonts thing, but it's totally on point, too; there's a reason font design is a major speciality skill, you don't just pull something like that out of your ass.

    #AI #StopTheSlop

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    @jwcph Jeg tror mange oplever det som en vild revolution at de kan lave plakater der “ser godt ud”.

    Men hold da fest, hvor er det grimt og gennemskueligt. Jeg håber virkelig at vi på et tidspunkt kan se tilbage på det, som vi kan se tilbage på retro-grønligt-mudrede Instagram-filtrerede fotos fra starten af 10’erne – altså som en virkeligt dårlig grille, vi er kommet videre fra.

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    • tokeriis@helvede.netT tokeriis@helvede.net

      @jwcph Jeg tror mange oplever det som en vild revolution at de kan lave plakater der “ser godt ud”.

      Men hold da fest, hvor er det grimt og gennemskueligt. Jeg håber virkelig at vi på et tidspunkt kan se tilbage på det, som vi kan se tilbage på retro-grønligt-mudrede Instagram-filtrerede fotos fra starten af 10’erne – altså som en virkeligt dårlig grille, vi er kommet videre fra.

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      @tokeriis Mange tror om mange ting at "det kunne jeg da selv lave" & er ikke klar over, at det er evnen til at træffe de rigtige beslutninger, der gør forskellen, og ikke værktøjerne eller andre eksternaliteter.

      De tror også at de kan beskrive hvad de vil have, noget alle designere ved er MEGET langt fra virkeligheden.

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      • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

        @tokeriis Mange tror om mange ting at "det kunne jeg da selv lave" & er ikke klar over, at det er evnen til at træffe de rigtige beslutninger, der gør forskellen, og ikke værktøjerne eller andre eksternaliteter.

        De tror også at de kan beskrive hvad de vil have, noget alle designere ved er MEGET langt fra virkeligheden.

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        @jwcph @tokeriis det er (med rette) en del kurser på uni (i hvert fald IT-universitetet Kbh) om netop, hvordan man finder de korrekte beskrivelser af behov, formål og arbejdsgange - når man designer et system, det skal understøtte en ejet flere arbejdsgange. Det bliver så tit lavet med røven ude i den "virkelige verden", fordi man (og nok især cheferne, er min oplevelse) ikke mener, at mere end højniveaubeskrivelser er nødvendige.

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        • laust@ohai.socialL laust@ohai.social

          @jwcph @tokeriis det er (med rette) en del kurser på uni (i hvert fald IT-universitetet Kbh) om netop, hvordan man finder de korrekte beskrivelser af behov, formål og arbejdsgange - når man designer et system, det skal understøtte en ejet flere arbejdsgange. Det bliver så tit lavet med røven ude i den "virkelige verden", fordi man (og nok især cheferne, er min oplevelse) ikke mener, at mere end højniveaubeskrivelser er nødvendige.

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          @Laust @tokeriis - og selv højniveau-beskrivelsen er ofte forkert & adresserer enten det forkerte problem / behov, eller imødekommer det ikke.

          Eller begge dele.

          Jeg har udført utallige opgaver for utallige virksomheder, fra strategi & design til simpel kommunikation & ikke én eneste gang var den første beskrivelse af hvad de ønskede sig i nærheden af at være tilstrækkelig for at udføre jobbet.

          Selv simple ting som "lav et SoMe-opslag om X" kræver stort set altid en uddybende samtale.

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          • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

            @Laust @tokeriis - og selv højniveau-beskrivelsen er ofte forkert & adresserer enten det forkerte problem / behov, eller imødekommer det ikke.

            Eller begge dele.

            Jeg har udført utallige opgaver for utallige virksomheder, fra strategi & design til simpel kommunikation & ikke én eneste gang var den første beskrivelse af hvad de ønskede sig i nærheden af at være tilstrækkelig for at udføre jobbet.

            Selv simple ting som "lav et SoMe-opslag om X" kræver stort set altid en uddybende samtale.

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            @jwcph @Laust Jeg oplever det som censor i studerenodes opgaver. Der er (udover naturligvis ført hånd i fht formuleringerne i teksten) i stor stil brugt “ai”-hjælp til modeller, og de lider af præcis de samme symptomer.

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            • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

              @Laust @tokeriis - og selv højniveau-beskrivelsen er ofte forkert & adresserer enten det forkerte problem / behov, eller imødekommer det ikke.

              Eller begge dele.

              Jeg har udført utallige opgaver for utallige virksomheder, fra strategi & design til simpel kommunikation & ikke én eneste gang var den første beskrivelse af hvad de ønskede sig i nærheden af at være tilstrækkelig for at udføre jobbet.

              Selv simple ting som "lav et SoMe-opslag om X" kræver stort set altid en uddybende samtale.

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              @jwcph @tokeriis præcis. Kurserne var alle en variant af "chefer og mellemledere ved intet om medarbejdernes arbejdsgange på det niveau, som du har brug for. Medarbejderne kan næsten aldrig selv beskrive arbejdsgangene præcist nok, så her er, hvordan du får fat i den viden og de informationer, det skal til."
              Tilgangen var som regel baseret på antropologiske metoder.

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              • laust@ohai.socialL laust@ohai.social

                @jwcph @tokeriis præcis. Kurserne var alle en variant af "chefer og mellemledere ved intet om medarbejdernes arbejdsgange på det niveau, som du har brug for. Medarbejderne kan næsten aldrig selv beskrive arbejdsgangene præcist nok, så her er, hvordan du får fat i den viden og de informationer, det skal til."
                Tilgangen var som regel baseret på antropologiske metoder.

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                @Laust @tokeriis Præcis - og så er det i øvrigt den primære årsag til, at automatisering næsten altid fejler, at det stadig ikke, selv med vores bedste metoder m.m., er muligt at få fyldestgørende information om arbejdet ud af medarbejderne & gjort eksplicit & repetérbar.

                Det der typisk forsvinder er netop, som jeg er inde på ovenfor, beslutningslaget; det bliver ekstremt nemt overset at selv den "laveste" medarbejder træffer kvalificerede beslutninger i sit arbejde dagen lang...

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                • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                  My daughter sent me this & yes to all of it - I hadn't even thought of the fonts thing, but it's totally on point, too; there's a reason font design is a major speciality skill, you don't just pull something like that out of your ass.

                  #AI #StopTheSlop

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                  @jwcph You forgot including the wrong address, because everybody apparently knows that the XYZ location moved and you didn't bother to check the AI put the right one there.

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                  • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                    My daughter sent me this & yes to all of it - I hadn't even thought of the fonts thing, but it's totally on point, too; there's a reason font design is a major speciality skill, you don't just pull something like that out of your ass.

                    #AI #StopTheSlop

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                    #neverslop
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                    • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                      My daughter sent me this & yes to all of it - I hadn't even thought of the fonts thing, but it's totally on point, too; there's a reason font design is a major speciality skill, you don't just pull something like that out of your ass.

                      #AI #StopTheSlop

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                      @jwcph It's just WordArt all over again, isn't it. Even the target audience matches.

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                      • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                        My daughter sent me this & yes to all of it - I hadn't even thought of the fonts thing, but it's totally on point, too; there's a reason font design is a major speciality skill, you don't just pull something like that out of your ass.

                        #AI #StopTheSlop

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                        @jwcph As a professional graphic designer, I wish they had spent more than 20 minutes on it, but I support the message. 😀

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                        • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                          My daughter sent me this & yes to all of it - I hadn't even thought of the fonts thing, but it's totally on point, too; there's a reason font design is a major speciality skill, you don't just pull something like that out of your ass.

                          #AI #StopTheSlop

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                          @jwcph@helvede.net quick tip: @inkscape@mastodon.art is a fab tool for poster design, and even accepts raster images from e.g. unsplash which you could use as a background/border/etc as part of your design. Personally, aside form the wild level of intuitive control you can get the grid function is so useful for designing posters and stuff and getting everything aligned ​​

                          disclaimer I'm definitely not a pro or anything designing stuff, I've just self-taught.....

                          #Inkscape #PosterDesign

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                          • danimo@kolektiva.socialD danimo@kolektiva.social

                            @jwcph As a professional graphic designer, I wish they had spent more than 20 minutes on it, but I support the message. 😀

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                            @danimo I was gonna say - that's a pretty horrible design! Especially the headline font... yechhh.

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                            • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                              My daughter sent me this & yes to all of it - I hadn't even thought of the fonts thing, but it's totally on point, too; there's a reason font design is a major speciality skill, you don't just pull something like that out of your ass.

                              #AI #StopTheSlop

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                              @jwcph posting this on my status specifically @ my extended family who are obsessed with ai

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                              • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                                My daughter sent me this & yes to all of it - I hadn't even thought of the fonts thing, but it's totally on point, too; there's a reason font design is a major speciality skill, you don't just pull something like that out of your ass.

                                #AI #StopTheSlop

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                                @jwcph@helvede.net I disagree on the chosen font for the heading. But the rest is good.

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                                • eragon@transfem.socialE eragon@transfem.social

                                  @jwcph@helvede.net I disagree on the chosen font for the heading. But the rest is good.

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                                  @eragon You can disagree with the design decisions - but the point is that decisions were made. You can't disagree with an algorithm, because there's no intent or decisions to disagree with.

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                                  • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                                    My daughter sent me this & yes to all of it - I hadn't even thought of the fonts thing, but it's totally on point, too; there's a reason font design is a major speciality skill, you don't just pull something like that out of your ass.

                                    #AI #StopTheSlop

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                                    @jwcph What is a "fake font", though? Examples?

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                                    • pythno@mastodon.gamedev.placeP pythno@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                      @jwcph What is a "fake font", though? Examples?

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                                      @pythno What is it about it that you don't understand?

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                                      • jwcph@helvede.netJ jwcph@helvede.net

                                        @pythno What is it about it that you don't understand?

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                                        @jwcph what a "fake" font is. Is it a font that isn't a font?

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                                        • pythno@mastodon.gamedev.placeP pythno@mastodon.gamedev.place

                                          @jwcph what a "fake" font is. Is it a font that isn't a font?

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                                          @pythno There is no font. The AI just makes up pixels that look like letters.

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