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  • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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    so ai is going great

    https://medium.com/@alonhertz1/data-became-code-we-ran-code-inside-fortune-500s-using-files-they-published-for-ai-agents-0cd67ffbbffc?postPublishedType=repub

    codingpanic@mastodon.socialC silvermoon82@wandering.shopS lykso@tiny.tilde.websiteL uwehalfhand@norcal.socialU ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA 6 Replies Last reply
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    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

      so ai is going great

      https://medium.com/@alonhertz1/data-became-code-we-ran-code-inside-fortune-500s-using-files-they-published-for-ai-agents-0cd67ffbbffc?postPublishedType=repub

      codingpanic@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @Viss One question though, how is this any different from an end user using an automated build system that references to packages on expired domains? Yes, we are cutting out the human with ai, but this could totally still happen with a human in the loop too. Agreed that in this case, most do not actually understand the attack surface though.

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      • codingpanic@mastodon.socialC codingpanic@mastodon.social

        @Viss One question though, how is this any different from an end user using an automated build system that references to packages on expired domains? Yes, we are cutting out the human with ai, but this could totally still happen with a human in the loop too. Agreed that in this case, most do not actually understand the attack surface though.

        viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @codingpanic humans have work hours and typically have to deal with iam and permission boundaries

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        • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

          @codingpanic humans have work hours and typically have to deal with iam and permission boundaries

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          #4

          @Viss This is true. Do you know of anyone who is exploring PAM in the agent space?

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          • codingpanic@mastodon.socialC codingpanic@mastodon.social

            @Viss This is true. Do you know of anyone who is exploring PAM in the agent space?

            viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @codingpanic nope. theyre going the other way. im doing airlock, and airlock works, but i dont have a marketing team

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            • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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              #6

              @jameshowell exactly

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              • codingpanic@mastodon.socialC codingpanic@mastodon.social

                @Viss One question though, how is this any different from an end user using an automated build system that references to packages on expired domains? Yes, we are cutting out the human with ai, but this could totally still happen with a human in the loop too. Agreed that in this case, most do not actually understand the attack surface though.

                kajord@hachyderm.ioK This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @codingpanic @Viss if a human had published explicit instructions to use nonexistent packages they might actually feel genuine embarrassment.

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                • kajord@hachyderm.ioK kajord@hachyderm.io

                  @codingpanic @Viss if a human had published explicit instructions to use nonexistent packages they might actually feel genuine embarrassment.

                  viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @kajord @codingpanic thats being generous, hah

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                  • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                    so ai is going great

                    https://medium.com/@alonhertz1/data-became-code-we-ran-code-inside-fortune-500s-using-files-they-published-for-ai-agents-0cd67ffbbffc?postPublishedType=repub

                    silvermoon82@wandering.shopS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #9

                    @Viss
                    Let's give random-ass websites root on prod. What could possibly go wrong?

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                      #10

                      @xyhhx @codingpanic

                      https://phobos.io/airlock.pdf

                      its a system I created that contains tui llm sessions and creates a multiplayer memory management system

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                      • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                        so ai is going great

                        https://medium.com/@alonhertz1/data-became-code-we-ran-code-inside-fortune-500s-using-files-they-published-for-ai-agents-0cd67ffbbffc?postPublishedType=repub

                        lykso@tiny.tilde.websiteL This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #11

                        @Viss Comedy gold.

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                        • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #12

                          @xyhhx sure! its based on incus, and iptables, utilizes some cool tricks incus does to make life easy, and lays down guidelines for how to move data into and out of the container, sets up an airlock system then has the attendees use the new system on a project of their choosing. sometimes research, sometimes working on code, sometimes infosec stuff like unrolling malware. its tuned for every customer

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                          • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #13

                            @xyhhx neither. but if the premise is 'im gonna secure the inside of kubernetes', thats not happening

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                            • viss@mastodon.socialV This user is from outside of this forum
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                              #14

                              @xyhhx that much abstraction sorta destroys the performance, right?

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                                #15

                                @Viss personally i wanna shoehorn syd into my qubes setup, and perhaps other stuff too

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                                • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                  so ai is going great

                                  https://medium.com/@alonhertz1/data-became-code-we-ran-code-inside-fortune-500s-using-files-they-published-for-ai-agents-0cd67ffbbffc?postPublishedType=repub

                                  uwehalfhand@norcal.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #16

                                  @Viss This is excellent. Everything is fine. No problems at all, why do you ask?

                                  I am more and more tempted to bug out. Just not sure if northern Labrador or Alaska or Tierra Del Fuego is the best destination. Or there are some tiny islands waaay off the southern tippy-tip of the south island of Aotearoa.

                                  😱🤦🏻‍♂️

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                                  • xyhhx@social.treehouse.systemsX xyhhx@social.treehouse.systems

                                    @Viss personally i wanna shoehorn syd into my qubes setup, and perhaps other stuff too

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                                    #17

                                    @xyhhx if it involves kuberenetes, its radioactive. and incus is just one layer and is way way way kinder to the people who have to run it. curious to see what you think after you get a chance to play with it

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                                    • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

                                      so ai is going great

                                      https://medium.com/@alonhertz1/data-became-code-we-ran-code-inside-fortune-500s-using-files-they-published-for-ai-agents-0cd67ffbbffc?postPublishedType=repub

                                      ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      #18

                                      @Viss HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA now, what should I put in my llms.txt file. 🤔

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                                      • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                                        @Viss HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA now, what should I put in my llms.txt file. 🤔

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                                        #19

                                        @ai6yr @Viss

                                        I got 1/10th into the article and this is also my first reaction.. yay poisoning the well at scale just seems a lot easier if they have a belt-fed gatling pointed squarely at their own feet.

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                                        • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                                          @Viss HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA now, what should I put in my llms.txt file. 🤔

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                                          #20

                                          @ai6yr @Viss
                                          My first thought, as well. Is there some way to put something in it that would make them not scrape my pathetic little site?

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