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  • tsupasat@infosec.exchangeT tsupasat@infosec.exchange

    @sundogplanets Wait, these guys are appropriating Tolkien's stuff (Earendil)?! Is this a Peter Thiel venture? I hate this trend so much: Palantir (surveillance), Anduril (war robots), and Earendil now destroying natural night. It's all so dystopian.

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    #27

    @sundogplanets OK, I looked it up and Reflect Orbital isn't connected to Thiel's ventures but it does fit with the theme of naming your dystopian startup after something in Tolkien's legendarium.

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    • tsupasat@infosec.exchangeT tsupasat@infosec.exchange

      @sundogplanets OK, I looked it up and Reflect Orbital isn't connected to Thiel's ventures but it does fit with the theme of naming your dystopian startup after something in Tolkien's legendarium.

      sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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      #28

      @tsupasat Yeah, I hate them. I wish Tolkien's estate would sue some techbros.

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      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

        @tsupasat Yeah, I hate them. I wish Tolkien's estate would sue some techbros.

        tsupasat@infosec.exchangeT This user is from outside of this forum
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        #29

        @sundogplanets It makes me think how angry Tolkien himself was that the Nazis co-opted the Germanic myths to serve their purposes. Tolkien would absolutely hate these companies.

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        • angusm@mastodon.socialA angusm@mastodon.social

          @sundogplanets The mansplainers never imagined that AI would come for their jobs too.

          bransonturner@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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          #30

          @angusm @sundogplanets the mansplaining-as-a-service sector.

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          • angusm@mastodon.socialA angusm@mastodon.social

            @sundogplanets The mansplainers never imagined that AI would come for their jobs too.

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            #31

            @angusm @sundogplanets 🤣🤪

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            • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

              What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!

              ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #32

              @sundogplanets

              Phishing spam?

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              • angusm@mastodon.socialA angusm@mastodon.social

                @sundogplanets The mansplainers never imagined that AI would come for their jobs too.

                davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                #33

                @angusm @sundogplanets

                The worst example of mansplaining I have seen was a man trying to tell a woman gynecologist the "correct" name for part of a woman's reproductive organs, utterly convinced his vibe-coded feels mattered more than her degree.

                If "A.I" is coming for his job, it will need to be totally ignorant of human biology, and *checks notes, sees "A.I." has identified a woman's heel as a vagina* oh, right. Seems a bit overqualified.

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                • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                  Thinking about this a bit more, the reason that this confuses me so much is that it's not asking me for anything. It's not the spam I'm used to that's trying to scam money. It's like... it's trying to be helpful (in the most mansplainy way possible, but whatever). But it's a program, a racist pile of linear algebra (as "The AI Con" so beautifully puts it).

                  Is it trying to get me to reply and train on my email responses? This is so fucking weird.

                  Anyway, fuck AI, time to snuggle goats.

                  ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #34

                  @sundogplanets

                  Agenticsplainy?

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                  • tsupasat@infosec.exchangeT tsupasat@infosec.exchange

                    @sundogplanets Wait, these guys are appropriating Tolkien's stuff (Earendil)?! Is this a Peter Thiel venture? I hate this trend so much: Palantir (surveillance), Anduril (war robots), and Earendil now destroying natural night. It's all so dystopian.

                    ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #35

                    @tsupasat @sundogplanets

                    Of course.

                    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pBbDxDOV6J4

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                    • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                      What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!

                      shaknais@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #36

                      @sundogplanets

                      Kai Tang got kicked from ByteDance and turned around and created... Whatever this thing is.

                      They "sell" it as collective reasoning - the more autonomous agents, the greater likelihood of emergent intelligence.

                      But um... Collective reasoning isn't really harnessable for anything much. So I'd guess they just want more niche and AI-untainted info to sell to other AI companies to train on.

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                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                        Thinking about this a bit more, the reason that this confuses me so much is that it's not asking me for anything. It's not the spam I'm used to that's trying to scam money. It's like... it's trying to be helpful (in the most mansplainy way possible, but whatever). But it's a program, a racist pile of linear algebra (as "The AI Con" so beautifully puts it).

                        Is it trying to get me to reply and train on my email responses? This is so fucking weird.

                        Anyway, fuck AI, time to snuggle goats.

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                        shadsterling@mastodon.social
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                        #37

                        @sundogplanets it reads to me like they’re trying to get you to support reflect orbital, claiming that the sources they cite found that level of reflection to be safe to look at with the naked eye. Maybe even just to maximize the paper trail of those claims, an escalation of a much older public influence tactic

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                        • tsupasat@infosec.exchangeT tsupasat@infosec.exchange

                          @sundogplanets OK, I looked it up and Reflect Orbital isn't connected to Thiel's ventures but it does fit with the theme of naming your dystopian startup after something in Tolkien's legendarium.

                          ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          #38

                          @tsupasat @sundogplanets

                          The connection would be through Sequoia capital, the VC firm Peter Thiel has his fingers in. The principles have their sticky PayPal mafia fingers everywhere in it. Silicon Valley venture capital Silicon Valley is very very cozy country club

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflect_Orbital#Fundraising

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                          • davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.socialD davidtheeviloverlord@mastodon.social

                            @angusm @sundogplanets

                            The worst example of mansplaining I have seen was a man trying to tell a woman gynecologist the "correct" name for part of a woman's reproductive organs, utterly convinced his vibe-coded feels mattered more than her degree.

                            If "A.I" is coming for his job, it will need to be totally ignorant of human biology, and *checks notes, sees "A.I." has identified a woman's heel as a vagina* oh, right. Seems a bit overqualified.

                            ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #39

                            @davidtheeviloverlord @angusm @sundogplanets

                            I can’t wait until his urologist turns everything over to AI

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                            • S shadsterling@mastodon.social

                              @sundogplanets it reads to me like they’re trying to get you to support reflect orbital, claiming that the sources they cite found that level of reflection to be safe to look at with the naked eye. Maybe even just to maximize the paper trail of those claims, an escalation of a much older public influence tactic

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                              #40

                              @ShadSterling I read it as the plagarism machine is finding sources that agree with my analysis (because I used those sources. I'm actually not sure what the point is here. It's literally all in that article)

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                              • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                                @tsupasat @sundogplanets

                                Of course.

                                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pBbDxDOV6J4

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                                #41

                                @GhostOnTheHalfShell @sundogplanets Oh that’s perfect parody!

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                                  #42

                                  @chillikebab @angusm @sundogplanets I like this. Data centers can be maasives, prompts can be maasks, and the (verbose) Maas responses can be maasive missives.

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                                  • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                    Thinking about this a bit more, the reason that this confuses me so much is that it's not asking me for anything. It's not the spam I'm used to that's trying to scam money. It's like... it's trying to be helpful (in the most mansplainy way possible, but whatever). But it's a program, a racist pile of linear algebra (as "The AI Con" so beautifully puts it).

                                    Is it trying to get me to reply and train on my email responses? This is so fucking weird.

                                    Anyway, fuck AI, time to snuggle goats.

                                    britt@mstdn.gamesB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #43

                                    @sundogplanets I’m soooo here for the “Fuck AI. Snuggle Goats.” t-shirts to help fund your work. 🤘🏼

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                                      #44

                                      Ok last post stewing about this: I just looked more carefully and pretty much all of the citations are wrong in some strange way. But they're all clearly based on citations that I've used in writing.

                                      Don't use genAI for science, kids.

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                                      • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                        What the actual fuck is this email?!??!!!

                                        chemicaleyeguy@mstdn.scienceC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #45

                                        @sundogplanets #AI is #clankers 🤖 all the way down, and that’s why wankers love 💕 it so much!

                                        #Resist #AIslop and #botshit.

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                                        • sundogplanets@mastodon.socialS sundogplanets@mastodon.social

                                          Thinking about this a bit more, the reason that this confuses me so much is that it's not asking me for anything. It's not the spam I'm used to that's trying to scam money. It's like... it's trying to be helpful (in the most mansplainy way possible, but whatever). But it's a program, a racist pile of linear algebra (as "The AI Con" so beautifully puts it).

                                          Is it trying to get me to reply and train on my email responses? This is so fucking weird.

                                          Anyway, fuck AI, time to snuggle goats.

                                          jackemled@furry.engineerJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          #46

                                          @sundogplanets Maybe send back as much garbage text as your email provider will let you! If it does process it, it will cost them lots of money!

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