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  • benaveling@infosec.exchangeB benaveling@infosec.exchange

    If you ask a human to explain an action, they think back to what they were thinking at the time. LLMs don't do that, because LLM's don't think.

    GenAI engines are chatbots. They generate text. They match your prompt against some subset of the billions of rules they have and the combination of rules that trigger most strongly determines the response, one word at a time.

    The only honest explanation for “why this behaviour and not that behaviour” would be “these rules triggered more strongly than those rules”.

    @bartholin @neurovagrant

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    #110

    @BenAveling @bartholin @neurovagrant "I was about to switch off the stove, but then the doorbell rang and I forgot."

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    • davep@infosec.exchangeD davep@infosec.exchange

      @webhat @neurovagrant @paco
      They lost a couple of tons of roasting beans...

      To be fair, it was my boss's fault for not allowing me to sniff the network with the systems at rest.

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      #111

      @webhat @neurovagrant @paco

      In a meeting with all the bigwigs at a foreign top secret missile manufacturing HQ while I was troubleshooting a problem there I mentioned that I had sniffed their network. One of the network engineers stood up and shouted "Arrest that man!". I replied "If you like, but I found your problem". They invited me back another time for another issue they were having.

      The lesson here, kids, is don't ask for permission first.

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      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

        the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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        #112

        @neurovagrant I wonder if there's a correlation between this happening to people who also don't have backups.

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        • webhat@infosec.exchangeW webhat@infosec.exchange

          @neurovagrant @paco I don't think you can get your sysadmin certification without showing the scars where you dropped tables in production

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          #113

          @webhat As they say: if that first cup of coffee doesn’t wake you up in the morning, try dropping a table in production. 😜
          @neurovagrant

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          • viss@mastodon.socialV viss@mastodon.social

            @quinn @neurovagrant someone rm'ing themselves because they gave claude too much access, who self-identifies as a cto, strikes me as one of those "php ceo" types, who does a lot of talking but never really produces stuff or makes anything interesting or worthwhile.

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            #114

            @Viss @quinn @neurovagrant Oh, they produce a lot now. So much. Productive bigly. Lots for others to review.

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            • epic_null@infosec.exchangeE epic_null@infosec.exchange

              @computernut43 @neurovagrant You mean one of the things that AI has just made unreasonably expensive?

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              #115

              @Epic_Null @neurovagrant yes

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              • paco@infosec.exchangeP paco@infosec.exchange

                @neurovagrant In 2005, we had a rookie security consultant doing a penetration test for our client. To demonstrate that the client's app was vulnerable to SQL injection, he ran drop table users; via injection.

                Twenty years of progress means we can make the rookie mistakes faster and with fewer employees.

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                #116
                @paco @neurovagrant well yeah I'd at least expect the LLM to do it right:

                DROP TABLE users CASCADE;
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                • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                  the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                  #117

                  @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org and then there's my uncle not knowing how to upload images to ChatGPT or how to log in again after an update. It ain't the devs alone who have no sense. That said my uncle is basically a chud. That said, for AI to rm -rf / is so fucking awful, given that it's the "erase absolutely everything on this computer, yes, I am absolutely sure" command.

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                  • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                    the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                    #118

                    @neurovagrant ha ha ha ha ha ha x100000000000

                    Fuck around and find out

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                    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                      the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                      #119

                      @neurovagrant play stupud games, win stupud prizes

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                      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                        the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                        #120

                        @neurovagrant Claudo did nothing, you used a tard soft,.without backup. Enjoy

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                        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                          the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                          #121

                          @neurovagrant so this is what AI companies mean when they say "our agent *escaped* its sandbox"

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                          • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                            the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                            #122

                            @neurovagrant i hope the rm -rf / will hit every company acting like "we don't need junior devs anymore. AI will handle all that in the future."

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                            • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                              the rm -rf's will continue until morale improves

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                              #123

                              @neurovagrant Backup that is not on the machine?

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