Fun fact to keep you awake tonight: Just had a chat with an atmospheric chemist and the best comparison she could come up with for the pollution that would result from burning up 1 million "AI datacenter" satellites in Earth's atmosphere is a nuclear war.

[markhurst@mastodon.social]

@sundogplanets I have a bunch of shows in the Techtonic pipeline right now but at *some* point if/when you're available, I'd love to talk with you on the show about this risk

[ericfielding@mastodon.social]

@sundogplanets Nuclear war, but without plutonium so a little different.

[olivia_55@mastodon.social]

@sundogplanets then what?

[trabern@mas.to]

@sundogplanets Hard to imagine we survived the 1970s-1980s mutually assured destruction era just to end up back in the same stupidity.

[funkylab@mastodon.social]

@sundogplanets considering the mass of material transported to atmosphere by under- and above-ground nuclear tests, that seems to be off by a couple of orders of magnitude.

[paco@infosec.exchange]

@sundogplanets nearly 10 years ago “we have had enough of experts” today, it has completely come true. The experts are almost totally sidelined.

https://www.london.edu/think/who-needs-experts

[paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange]

@trabern @sundogplanets

i remember all the civil rights stuff from the 60s/70s and we're right back there again too. constant vigilance is needed to not regress.

i love science, since the assumption in science is that you always need to know where you've been, what's worked and not worked, and hopefully you don't revisit dead ends.

[bzdev@fosstodon.org]

@sundogplanets If they want to put a server farm in orbit, how about at the L4 or L5 Lagrange points for the Earth-Moon system? They'd be in direct sunlight most of the time, reducing the need for batteries. Less impact on telescopes as well.

For Elon's LLM, let's put it at L3 (Earth/Sun system), which would have some real benefits for the rest of us: with the sun in the way, it would be hard to "talk" to it.

[lyonsinbeta@mastodon.social]

@sundogplanets

[apostateenglishman@mastodon.world]

@sundogplanets Is it possible that behind closed doors, Musk et al think Kessler syndrome will reverse climate change? Is that the level of myopic stupidity we could be dealing with here?

I mean, the Epstein class do seem to sincerely believe that technology will somehow save *them*, even if billions of the rest of us are wiped out in the process. ‍️

[slotos@toot.community]

@sundogplanets They might be overestimating the effects of a nuclear war.

[paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange]

@smutmag @derickr @sundogplanets

the past also argues that he's good at scamming government funds from legit projects and science for his scams. we need to be sure our taxes aren't misused.

[perrin42@mastodon.social]

@sundogplanets

Well, nuclear winter is one way to combat global warming...

[kaito02@mastodon.social]

@sundogplanets finally, the plot of Fallout

[crazyeddie@mastodon.social]

@sauc3 @sundogplanets https://www.medical-jokes.com/all-the-parts-of-the-body-argued-over-who-would-be-boss/

[crazyeddie@mastodon.social]

@n_dimension @paul_ipv6 @sundogplanets So like, the result of this isn't a cooled down earth but a slightly less hot earth that's muggy as fuck and tastes like methamphetamine smoke, copper, and burning tires and looks like mars but with "fog".

Think Constantine and those hell scenes.

Better than totally melted I guess.

[ak_57@mastodon.social]

@sundogplanets hi

[peterjriley2024@mastodon.social]

@sundogplanets

https://theconversation.com/too-many-satellites-earths-orbit-is-on-track-for-a-catastrophe-but-we-can-stop-it-275430

[sundogplanets@mastodon.social]

@peterjriley2024 I am a co-author on that...

[sundogplanets@mastodon.social]

@lispi314 This is purely looking at soot and particulates/aerosols, not radioactivity