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An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies.

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  • kkarhan@jorts.horseK kkarhan@jorts.horse

    @CStamp I'm glad this shite is so illegal in the #EU…

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    #5

    @kkarhan @CStamp it still happens in the eu. I recommend you follow the instructions on the screenshot

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    • luckychronic@mastodon.socialL luckychronic@mastodon.social

      @kkarhan @CStamp it still happens in the eu. I recommend you follow the instructions on the screenshot

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      #6

      @luckychronic @CStamp Where?

      Cuz if it hapoens in #Germany I'm shure #ConsumerProtection like @Bundesverband would love to know...

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      • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

        An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.

        filipslusarski@techhub.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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        #7

        @CStamp I worked in the business and there is not a single solution. For example, some booking systems increase the price based on the total number of the queries. Clearing the browser and going through reservation as the new customer would not help at all.

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        • filipslusarski@techhub.socialF filipslusarski@techhub.social

          @CStamp I worked in the business and there is not a single solution. For example, some booking systems increase the price based on the total number of the queries. Clearing the browser and going through reservation as the new customer would not help at all.

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          #8

          @filipslusarski That is good to know, thanks.

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          • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

            An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.

            gokushrm@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #9

            @CStamp 😂

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            • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

              An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.

              diazona@techhub.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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              #10

              @CStamp For me the biggest surprise is that they make it that easy. I had been under the impression most of these companies were using IP addresses, geolocation, advanced browser fingerprinting, and search history correlation to identify people even across cache clears and different browsers.

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              • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.

                unhammer@mastodon.socialU This user is from outside of this forum
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                #11

                @CStamp same thing happens with hotels and untaxed hotels. But they also up prices when people search a lot or can't make up their minds, eg. https://www.airbnb.com/help/article/1168 so clearing cache might also make it worse (or, from Airbnb's perspective, better)

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                • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                  An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.

                  peterfr@mastodon.artP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #12

                  @CStamp this is really something i like about direct bookings with lufthansa/austrian, at least in central europe.

                  same price, all the time. no matter what device/ISP and number of requests.

                  not the cheapest, but reliable pricing.

                  cc @koehntopp

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                  • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                    An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.

                    ahltorp@mastodon.nuA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #13

                    @CStamp Wait until you hear about what they put into the atmosphere. That’s some really crazy shit.

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                    • kkarhan@jorts.horseK kkarhan@jorts.horse

                      @luckychronic @CStamp Where?

                      Cuz if it hapoens in #Germany I'm shure #ConsumerProtection like @Bundesverband would love to know...

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                      #14

                      @kkarhan @CStamp @Bundesverband idk about Germany, in Spain it happens. Try to search several times for the same flight, its price should go up. If you try tell me because it would be interesting to know if it depends on the country

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                      • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                        An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.

                        coba@gruene.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #15

                        @CStamp same for train tickets. too many people looking at the same tickets changes the price. the many people could be you looking again and again...

                        sometimes it´s cheaper to book until the next city across the boarder because their are cheaper EU travel tickets.

                        mobile apps tend to be more expensive then using a desktop. apple used to be more expensive because people buying apple products have more money.

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                        • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                          @kkarhan I hope they make it so here.

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                          #16

                          @CStamp @kkarhan

                          You can make it illegal.

                          Just take out some CEOs

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                          • kkarhan@jorts.horseK kkarhan@jorts.horse

                            @CStamp I'm glad this shite is so illegal in the #EU…

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                            #17

                            @kkarhan @CStamp is it? When I look, all I see is that algorithmic pricing is not allowed if it includes collusion.

                            https://www.morganlewis.com/pubs/2025/10/algorithmic-pricing-emerges-as-enforcement-priority-for-eu-and-uk-antitrust-regulators

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                            • kkarhan@jorts.horseK kkarhan@jorts.horse

                              @luckychronic @CStamp Where?

                              Cuz if it hapoens in #Germany I'm shure #ConsumerProtection like @Bundesverband would love to know...

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                              #18

                              @kkarhan @luckychronic @CStamp @Bundesverband all I find for DE is a case against Amazon based on scraping price data from elsewhere. If their algorithm does not use prices from other vendors (directly?) then they can modify price dynamically. As far as I could find

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                              • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                                An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.

                                _elena@mastodon.social_ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #19

                                @CStamp I also read that prices vary depending on the device you use and your location... AKA: more expensive for someone with expensive tech gear in an affluent country. I often do flight reservations with my 12 year old Macbook Air using a VPN from a country with a low GDP 🤷‍♀️

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                                • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                                  An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.

                                  apenkop@mstdn.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #20

                                  @CStamp Try not flying.

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                                  • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                                    An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.

                                    contrasocial@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #21

                                    @CStamp

                                    Also, because browser fingerprinting is also a thing (i.e. sites IDing you based on the unique combo of info that your browser sends like time, window size, IP etc.), it could help to use a different device altogether.

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                                    • cstamp@mastodon.socialC cstamp@mastodon.social

                                      An FYI to folk booking tickets online: if you notice price jumps between the first time you look and when you are ready to book, delete cache and empty cookies. The airline deleted their post a short time later because someone was being too helpful.

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                                      #22

                                      @CStamp someone was being *human*

                                      Can't have that

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                                      • coba@gruene.socialC coba@gruene.social

                                        @CStamp same for train tickets. too many people looking at the same tickets changes the price. the many people could be you looking again and again...

                                        sometimes it´s cheaper to book until the next city across the boarder because their are cheaper EU travel tickets.

                                        mobile apps tend to be more expensive then using a desktop. apple used to be more expensive because people buying apple products have more money.

                                        david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #23

                                        @coba @CStamp

                                        It's worth differentiating the two classes of system. Demand-based pricing is fairly normal: if you can't meet demand, you need to reduce it somehow and putting up the price is how markets normally work.

                                        Personalised pricing is about trying to pick the highest price that you, individually, are willing to pay. This is predatory behaviour and should be 100% illegal.

                                        20+ years ago, these systems were great because they'd do demand pricing. They'd aim to have planes close to 100% full, so they'd increase the price if the flight was popular and lower it for unpopular flights. When you went to a dozen travel agents and looked at the same flight, they'd each put a lock on the flight to make sure that they could actually sell it to you. This would cause a strong demand signal and so the price would start. After a few days, they'd all release their lock, which the back-end system would interpret as a sudden drop in demand and lower the price to make up for it. If you timed it correctly, you could buy when the prices suddenly dropped.

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                                        • apenkop@mstdn.socialA apenkop@mstdn.social

                                          @CStamp Try not flying.

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                                          #24

                                          @CStamp
                                          For a funeral is of course something different. I would not try to withold anyone from attending a funeral.

                                          My plea is to people planehopping for leisure. Stay at home, do something for your community, help the poor and your local economy.

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