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  3. well this is the scariest thing my work computer has ever done.

well this is the scariest thing my work computer has ever done.

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  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

    to my genuine but relieved surprise, it still booted after this.

    what's truly mystifying, however, is how the Dell firmware manages to have two or three ⚠️Critical⚠️ bios updates a week. I understand neither where they're all coming from nor how Dell sustains such a rapid release cycle of high-risk firmware patches long-term.

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    #14

    @0xabad1dea little to no testing would be my guess

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    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

      to my genuine but relieved surprise, it still booted after this.

      what's truly mystifying, however, is how the Dell firmware manages to have two or three ⚠️Critical⚠️ bios updates a week. I understand neither where they're all coming from nor how Dell sustains such a rapid release cycle of high-risk firmware patches long-term.

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      #15

      @0xabad1dea I have a Lenovo that did something like 7 bios updates in the same day, laptop was disconnected for a while, but instead of doing last one windows update makes it step each one at a time.

      Also if you had a critical error before it's a good idea to do a sfc /scannow I was sceptic before but that command fixs a lot of corrupted files all the time.

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      • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

        @xaetacore oh I'm sure it's very simple for you to click the button after someone else put in all the work to be sure it will work, yes.

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        #16
        @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange I write and maintain gentoo ebuilds lol, i am very familiar with the process of writing ebuilds, RPMs, Debs and Pkgbuilds, as well as manual source compiles and installations
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        • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

          to my genuine but relieved surprise, it still booted after this.

          what's truly mystifying, however, is how the Dell firmware manages to have two or three ⚠️Critical⚠️ bios updates a week. I understand neither where they're all coming from nor how Dell sustains such a rapid release cycle of high-risk firmware patches long-term.

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          #17

          @0xabad1dea those firmware updates give me a great excuse to do nothing for several minutes while it updates & reboots, which perhaps the firmware writers also appreciate

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          • xaetacore@neondystopia.worldX xaetacore@neondystopia.world
            @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange I write and maintain gentoo ebuilds lol, i am very familiar with the process of writing ebuilds, RPMs, Debs and Pkgbuilds, as well as manual source compiles and installations
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            #18
            @0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange writing packages is different from installing them or updating them. The same goes for windows.
            The process of installing or updating is exactly as I described on most distributions.
            The way it is able to track the files.It installs is partially also because of the fake root it puts them in before merging it with the real root
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            • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

              to my genuine but relieved surprise, it still booted after this.

              what's truly mystifying, however, is how the Dell firmware manages to have two or three ⚠️Critical⚠️ bios updates a week. I understand neither where they're all coming from nor how Dell sustains such a rapid release cycle of high-risk firmware patches long-term.

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              #19

              @0xabad1dea yeah, now I remember that in Big Corporate we've had Dell firmware updates quite often (whitelabeled by the corporate though)

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              • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                to my genuine but relieved surprise, it still booted after this.

                what's truly mystifying, however, is how the Dell firmware manages to have two or three ⚠️Critical⚠️ bios updates a week. I understand neither where they're all coming from nor how Dell sustains such a rapid release cycle of high-risk firmware patches long-term.

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                #20

                @0xabad1dea This is interesting, I use linux on my Dell, so does my better half and there's no firmware updates unless we say so ☺️

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                • iloo@mastodon.socialI iloo@mastodon.social

                  @0xabad1dea This is interesting, I use linux on my Dell, so does my better half and there's no firmware updates unless we say so ☺️

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                  @Iloo I'm confused why you think that's different from Windows? the updates exist whether you choose to install them or not, in either case

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                  • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                    to my genuine but relieved surprise, it still booted after this.

                    what's truly mystifying, however, is how the Dell firmware manages to have two or three ⚠️Critical⚠️ bios updates a week. I understand neither where they're all coming from nor how Dell sustains such a rapid release cycle of high-risk firmware patches long-term.

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                    #22

                    @0xabad1dea I imagine it's unsustainable

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                    • 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange0 0xabad1dea@infosec.exchange

                      @Iloo I'm confused why you think that's different from Windows? the updates exist whether you choose to install them or not, in either case

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                      @0xabad1dea I don't get them automatically, if I want them I can do them as needed in the time that is convenient for me, which means I get to decided what my laptop is doing at any given time not the other way around ☺️

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