"AI adoption raises homework scores by 18% and reduces completion time by 30%, but lowers monthly exam scores by 20% within six months.
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@dajb @gvwilson Wikipedia wasn't burning down forests and pushing fascist ideology, so there's that. It wasn't entwining itself into everyone's lives. It wasn't churning out images of student heads on naked bodies. It wasn't destroying rare books to make a buck. It wasn't attaching fossil fuel energy to its mega data centers, and it wasn't buying land in every state to do it. And then there is what it does to people who rely on it. AI chat bots have encouraged suicide. I have a problem with it anywhere near a classroom.
@steter @gvwilson "AI" isn't doing these things. Big Tech is doing these things.
I'm no apologist for either but you're conflating several things.
The point I was making was in relation to the focus of the thread which was on student grades and homework.
And don't get me started on assesment design otherwise we'll be here all day.
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"The learning losses are concentrated among roughly 80% of AI users whose behavior is consistent with homework outsourcing, as indicated by exceptionally short homework completion time coupled with high homework scores. AI users who maintain similar homework completion time as non-AI users experience small learning losses." 3/3
@gvwilson This is on purpose. They are desperate to push ways to use AI which reduce cognitive ability and maximize dependence. This is why ads push asking AI for advice on health care and legal advice.
It's also a reason why AI does not give attribution, because then the user might use the attribution and their own brain to determine the meaning of what's actually in the references, as well as assess the credibility of the sources.
Those are critical thinking skills they want people to lose.
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"AI adoption raises homework scores by 18% and reduces completion time by 30%, but lowers monthly exam scores by 20% within six months. High-stakes entrance-exam scores fall by 18 and 24%, with the full penalty emerging only after about two years. The losses are largest in social science subjects, followed by STEM and languages, and are especially large for junior students, high-achieving students, and boys." 2/3
“Using weight lifting robots at the gym raises weight lifting scores by 18% and reduces completion time by 30%, but lowers physical fitness scores by 20% within six months.”
See how ridiculous that sounds?
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“Using weight lifting robots at the gym raises weight lifting scores by 18% and reduces completion time by 30%, but lowers physical fitness scores by 20% within six months.”
See how ridiculous that sounds?
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"The learning losses are concentrated among roughly 80% of AI users whose behavior is consistent with homework outsourcing, as indicated by exceptionally short homework completion time coupled with high homework scores. AI users who maintain similar homework completion time as non-AI users experience small learning losses." 3/3
@gvwilson They're going to have to make hand-written answers for everything the norm again. And compare your homework writing with your in-class writing.
It won't be a perfect solution, but it'll considerably undercut "getting the computer to do it".
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“Using weight lifting robots at the gym raises weight lifting scores by 18% and reduces completion time by 30%, but lowers physical fitness scores by 20% within six months.”
See how ridiculous that sounds?
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“Using weight lifting robots at the gym raises weight lifting scores by 18% and reduces completion time by 30%, but lowers physical fitness scores by 20% within six months.”
See how ridiculous that sounds?
I dunno, I'd send a robot to gym in my place. Not that I'd ever walk into a gym in the first place...
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@gvwilson This is on purpose. They are desperate to push ways to use AI which reduce cognitive ability and maximize dependence. This is why ads push asking AI for advice on health care and legal advice.
It's also a reason why AI does not give attribution, because then the user might use the attribution and their own brain to determine the meaning of what's actually in the references, as well as assess the credibility of the sources.
Those are critical thinking skills they want people to lose.
@isaackuo @gvwilson
Attribution only hurts the LLM's image. If attribution is provided, the source gets credit for the knowledge, not the LLM. If attribution is usually provided but sometimes isn't, people become suspicious that statements without attribution are fabrications rather than actual knowledge. If attribution is never provided, people don't know when they should be suspicious. -
@gvwilson This is on purpose. They are desperate to push ways to use AI which reduce cognitive ability and maximize dependence. This is why ads push asking AI for advice on health care and legal advice.
It's also a reason why AI does not give attribution, because then the user might use the attribution and their own brain to determine the meaning of what's actually in the references, as well as assess the credibility of the sources.
Those are critical thinking skills they want people to lose.
A reminder of who is keeping the AI bubble afloat: a fossil fuel industry sabotaging any nation acting on climate.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-anti-clean-energy-policies
https://www.wired.com/story/trump-energy-industry-ai-fossil-fuels-pittsburgh-summit/
https://www.commondreams.org/news/trump-oil-industry-donations
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/jul/15/trump-ai-oil-energy-summit
https://futurism.com/artificial-intelligence/ai-impact-environment-horrifying-new-paper
The ill-informed are essential to fossil-fuel funded fascism.
https://abcnews.com/video/37159352/https://www.desmog.com/2025/12/11/the-koch-network-is-pushing-trump-to-accelerate-ai-documents-show/
https://jacobin.com/2018/06/public-education-privatization-koch-brothers-teachers
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“Using weight lifting robots at the gym raises weight lifting scores by 18% and reduces completion time by 30%, but lowers physical fitness scores by 20% within six months.”
See how ridiculous that sounds?
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@gvwilson This is on purpose. They are desperate to push ways to use AI which reduce cognitive ability and maximize dependence. This is why ads push asking AI for advice on health care and legal advice.
It's also a reason why AI does not give attribution, because then the user might use the attribution and their own brain to determine the meaning of what's actually in the references, as well as assess the credibility of the sources.
Those are critical thinking skills they want people to lose.
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My post is arguing that the point of going to school is to learn, just like how the point of going to the gym is to improve physical fitness.
My post is a simple word substitution of the quote in the original above which showed that students are defeating the point of going to school by getting a bot to do the work for them.
Put differently, the homework isn’t being done for any purpose other than so the student can learn, just like the weights in a gym don’t need lifting.
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My post is arguing that the point of going to school is to learn, just like how the point of going to the gym is to improve physical fitness.
My post is a simple word substitution of the quote in the original above which showed that students are defeating the point of going to school by getting a bot to do the work for them.
Put differently, the homework isn’t being done for any purpose other than so the student can learn, just like the weights in a gym don’t need lifting.
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"AI adoption raises homework scores by 18% and reduces completion time by 30%, but lowers monthly exam scores by 20% within six months. High-stakes entrance-exam scores fall by 18 and 24%, with the full penalty emerging only after about two years. The losses are largest in social science subjects, followed by STEM and languages, and are especially large for junior students, high-achieving students, and boys." 2/3
@gvwilson Use it or lose it
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My post is arguing that the point of going to school is to learn, just like how the point of going to the gym is to improve physical fitness.
My post is a simple word substitution of the quote in the original above which showed that students are defeating the point of going to school by getting a bot to do the work for them.
Put differently, the homework isn’t being done for any purpose other than so the student can learn, just like the weights in a gym don’t need lifting.
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@SeanPLynch this person seems to think homework is assigned for learning.
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“Using weight lifting robots at the gym raises weight lifting scores by 18% and reduces completion time by 30%, but lowers physical fitness scores by 20% within six months.”
See how ridiculous that sounds?
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@gvwilson This is on purpose. They are desperate to push ways to use AI which reduce cognitive ability and maximize dependence. This is why ads push asking AI for advice on health care and legal advice.
It's also a reason why AI does not give attribution, because then the user might use the attribution and their own brain to determine the meaning of what's actually in the references, as well as assess the credibility of the sources.
Those are critical thinking skills they want people to lose.
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@SeanPLynch this person seems to think homework is assigned for learning.
@jason @SeanPLynch @svavar of course it is. What is the purpose of it for you?
