20,000 mail accounts.
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What happened? I don't see any articles on this. Did they just lose funding (and if so, why where they funded by the US if they were in the EU anyway?) or did something else happen? You have an article?
@djsumdog @cavallette @anneroth I also struggled to find detailed reporting but it seems they may have been removed from top level DNS?
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20,000 mail accounts.
20,000 blogs.
5,000 mailing lists.
1,500 websites.In Europe.
Run by volunteers of @cavallette, perfectly legal, and decidedly antifascist, feminist, queer.
Destroyed and shut down by Trump's administration, extra legally.
It is astonishingly quiet.
#Autistici
@anneroth @cavallette Tell me more.
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@anneroth @cavallette In Dutch, but no pay wall. This is a podcast we published today: Ik luister naar 'Zo bepalen de VS wie online mag bestaan – ook in Europa' (NRC Vandaag) in de NRC Audio app: https://audio.nrc.nl/episode/181338194?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrc.nl%2Fnieuws%2F2026%2F09%2F08%2Fzo-bepalen-de-vs-wie-online-mag-bestaan-ook-in-europa-a4936115
@Marloezovic Thanks! I'm afraid my Dutch won't be quite good enough
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@Marloezovic Thanks! I'm afraid my Dutch won't be quite good enough
(and the website does ask for a subscriber login). But great you're following up!@anneroth @cavallette I wasn't aware of the login, but it's also on all other platforms
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@anneroth @cavallette In Dutch, but no pay wall. This is a podcast we published today: Ik luister naar 'Zo bepalen de VS wie online mag bestaan – ook in Europa' (NRC Vandaag) in de NRC Audio app: https://audio.nrc.nl/episode/181338194?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrc.nl%2Fnieuws%2F2026%2F09%2F08%2Fzo-bepalen-de-vs-wie-online-mag-bestaan-ook-in-europa-a4936115
@Marloezovic @anneroth @cavallette Ik zou het graag willen luisteren maar op de NRC moet je wel een abonnement hebben.
Maar het blijkt wel hier toegangelijk te zijn. Al met een minute reklames in het begin van de podcast.
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@anneroth
Dutch newspaper @nrc_nl had a couple of stories on it, written by @Marloezovic . But yeah, it's the exception.
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@barbra @david42 @anneroth @cavallette Or get your money out of American banks, stop doing business with American companies, elect governments that refuse to take orders from American autocrats. The US is losing to a penny ante dictatorship in Iran,they can’t begin to cope with the rest of the world saying no.
@su_liam @barbra @david42 @anneroth @cavallette How do you get your money out of an American bank when you do not know that you are banking with an American bank?
Or how do you know that your payment systems will be blocked as they, at some point travel through US payment services space?
Your banking app that relies on Android verification services has stopped working as your Google account has been cancelled?
Want to take some cash out of a cash machine? With a VISA or Mastercard card?
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@barbra @david42 @anneroth @cavallette Or get your money out of American banks, stop doing business with American companies, elect governments that refuse to take orders from American autocrats. The US is losing to a penny ante dictatorship in Iran,they can’t begin to cope with the rest of the world saying no.
@su_liam @barbra @david42 @anneroth @cavallette "The US is losing to a penny ante dictatorship in Iran,they can’t begin to cope with the rest of the world saying no."
But in the mean time they could pull the plugs on most European citizens' internet access and payment systems.
A continent unable to pay for any of the goods and services that they need on a daily basis.
NOT because they don't have the money but because the US has trashed the infrastructure.
Without firing a single missile.
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@anneroth @cavallette In Dutch, but no pay wall. This is a podcast we published today: Ik luister naar 'Zo bepalen de VS wie online mag bestaan – ook in Europa' (NRC Vandaag) in de NRC Audio app: https://audio.nrc.nl/episode/181338194?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrc.nl%2Fnieuws%2F2026%2F09%2F08%2Fzo-bepalen-de-vs-wie-online-mag-bestaan-ook-in-europa-a4936115
@Marloezovic
Net als in WO 2 heeft ook nu het verzet een eigen bank nodig
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@anneroth @cavallette In Dutch, but no pay wall. This is a podcast we published today: Ik luister naar 'Zo bepalen de VS wie online mag bestaan – ook in Europa' (NRC Vandaag) in de NRC Audio app: https://audio.nrc.nl/episode/181338194?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nrc.nl%2Fnieuws%2F2026%2F09%2F08%2Fzo-bepalen-de-vs-wie-online-mag-bestaan-ook-in-europa-a4936115
@Marloezovic @anneroth @cavallette Een goed te begrijpen overzicht van het problemen rond dat wij in het kader van internet toegang en diensten totaal avhankelijk van de VS zijn geworden.
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@Marloezovic
Net als in WO 2 heeft ook nu het verzet een eigen bank nodig
@anneroth @cavallette@anantagd @Marloezovic @anneroth @cavallette Niet alleen eigen banken moeten komen maar ook eigen betalingssystemen zijn nodig.
Betalingssystemen dat onafhankelijk van smartphones zijn. Omdat deze mobieltjes draaien besturingssystemen die in de VS ontwikkeld zijn. Bij tech bedrijven die niet meer te vertrouwen zijn geworden.
Ook omdat deze mobieltjes moeten bij Google of Apple accounts ingelogd zijn om te kunnen werken en om appen te kunnen downloaden en om oppdateringen te kunnen krijgen.
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@Li @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth tis just one of the most easy ways to piss me off: giving fascists what they want without actually being forced to. people obeying in advance is the backbone of any fascist power structure. fascism would not be a thing without it
granted we do not know what it was in this case because the blog post says borderline nothing
@hsza @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth @Li you didnt hear this from me but wouldnt it be funny if someone just started a movement that describes itself as antiamerican terrorists as a joke so if it gets actually declared as a terrorist organization it automatically rids the declarer of all credibility -
@hsza @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth @Li you didnt hear this from me but wouldnt it be funny if someone just started a movement that describes itself as antiamerican terrorists as a joke so if it gets actually declared as a terrorist organization it automatically rids the declarer of all credibility
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@anneroth @cavallette And this is exactly why the loss of A/I can't be treated as some niche problem for the nerds.
We’ve been tracing how a 25-year-old autonomous infrastructure project ended up here, and what its loss means for everyone who depends on infrastructure outside corporate control:
https://sabot.media/post/kirk-to-ai
Let us have a thousand servers.
@AberdeenLocal1312 @anneroth @cavallette it is a loss, and we mourn it. but we can spin up their idea and concept a thousandfold instead and create a spiderweb!
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@hsza @cavallette @david42 @barbra @anneroth @Li you didnt hear this from me but wouldnt it be funny if someone just started a movement that describes itself as antiamerican terrorists as a joke so if it gets actually declared as a terrorist organization it automatically rids the declarer of all credibility
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@cavallette @eclinton @anneroth People asking for a proof United states of America is an imperialist bully are juste donkeys. All my respect to donkeys tho.
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@anneroth @cavallette Not a judge, a court, or jury had anything to say about it.
Europe is not sovereign, we are a client state of the USA.
@gimulnautti @anneroth @cavallette no state is souvereign in a globalised economy, & being a bullyish imperialist with a faltering infrastructure & more debt than ever refundable does not qualify for "world leadership", no matter da screams of omnipotence meant to divert from da growing impotence, militarisation & paranoid surveillance are hallmarks of a system loosing its grip ...
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@su_liam @barbra @david42 @anneroth @cavallette "The US is losing to a penny ante dictatorship in Iran,they can’t begin to cope with the rest of the world saying no."
But in the mean time they could pull the plugs on most European citizens' internet access and payment systems.
A continent unable to pay for any of the goods and services that they need on a daily basis.
NOT because they don't have the money but because the US has trashed the infrastructure.
Without firing a single missile.
@the_wub @su_liam @david42 @anneroth @cavallette
European governments have already started removing their good reserves from the US.
Wouldn't take much for governments selling their US treasury and currency reserves to cause a run on the US dollar, given how shaky the US bond market is right now.
Would easily much US interest rates and inflation over 10%. Right before the midterms.
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@david42 @barbra @anneroth @cavallette this very much feels like a 'technical solutions to a social problem' situation..
@Li @david42 @anneroth @cavallette
The US hijacking someone's DNS entry to shut them down is a technical, not social, problem.
A technical solution is entirely valid. And easy enough tobdo.
