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  3. I find the way that some people understand what is and isn't racism mystifying.

I find the way that some people understand what is and isn't racism mystifying.

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  • faithisleaping@anarres.familyF faithisleaping@anarres.family

    @futurebird @CordiallyChloe Yup! Liberals have just as much of an "I'm a good person. If you can't see that, that's a you problem!" as conservatives. They just justify it with classism and education instead of religion. But it's the same damn problem.

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    @futurebird @CordiallyChloe The only way out is to give up on the whole "good people" / "bad people" dynamic and learn to apologize, listen, learn, and grow when we fuck up instead of doubling down on our goodness.

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      @futurebird @CordiallyChloe The only way out is to give up on the whole "good people" / "bad people" dynamic and learn to apologize, listen, learn, and grow when we fuck up instead of doubling down on our goodness.

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      @faithisleaping @futurebird

      I don't wanna make a post about bigotry against black people all about me, but there is obviously intersectionality. And I can so easily point to this stuff in my own experiences too.

      The one that makes me angriest as a trans person is "this is new to all of us. People just don't understand yet." And that INFURIATES me.

      "I don't understand" is NEVER an excuse for bigotry. It's an excuse for you to *learn,* but not to perpetuate hate.

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      • queenofnewyork@newsie.socialQ queenofnewyork@newsie.social

        @lienrag @futurebird It may be more perverse, but the “I don’t like super-obvious racism but tolerate the rest” crowd is more insidious. They are, I think, more numerous and mostly surrounded by other white people who won’t challenge their biases. So they don’t vote for “racism” but they vote for “tough on crime” and won’t believe there’s no difference.

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        @queenofnewyork @lienrag @futurebird i.e. "cannibalism is fine so long as you put your napkin in your lap and chew with your mouth closed"

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        • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

          What is the issue? It's the same thing. It's a prejudice that Black people are primitive and inhuman. Like apes or some animal that attacks your pets. It's the same racism.

          Is it that they don't care if it's not powerful people?

          Dazzled by the wealth and power of the Obamas and so you can recognize an insult to them but not to some regular blackfolks?

          It is really odd and I do not get it.

          These things are equal and we only got a retraction for ONE of them. 2/

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          @futurebird FWIW (not a lot, I know) I think the retraction came because The Right People pushed back.

          I know that all of the racist comments and post he has made have offended me. In fact, every racist thing, every ablist thing, every fucking offensive word out of his fingers sucks.

          But I also know that a) I don't see or hear most of it; and b) It is what we expect from him, so we get inured to it all. Sadly. It takes some new level of offensiveness to spark a response.

          He and his ilk are just vile. But there is nothing I can do about it. Except - where I can - express my disgust and support for those being offended.

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