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  3. I’ve probably said this before, but I don’t get why people reply with “yeah but your action won’t solve the entire problem” where «problem» is a massive systemic issue; as if that kind of reply were worth considering or profound or something.

I’ve probably said this before, but I don’t get why people reply with “yeah but your action won’t solve the entire problem” where «problem» is a massive systemic issue; as if that kind of reply were worth considering or profound or something.

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  • kir@mastodon.unoK kir@mastodon.uno

    @drahardja this is so true, but as a highly abstract person myself I really understand the fear that focusing on the particular can make you unsee the systemical.

    It's a real problem

    drahardja@sfba.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #14

    @Kir I comfort myself in knowing that my focus is limited, and I cannot both focus on generalities and particulars at the same time, so I must zoom in and out of a problem and pay more or less attention to any particular level of abstraction. Balance is absolutely key. Spend too much time zoomed out, and you develop little expertise about how to actually solve the problem. Spend too much time zoomed in, and you become obsessed at finding a local maximum without making much progress.

    I find it similar to driving to a place far away for the first time, using only a road atlas to guide you. You plan a route in the macro, but you must make micro decisions at every intersection and highway exit to actually get there, and navigate around traffic and road construction as needed.

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    • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

      I’ve probably said this before, but I don’t get why people reply with “yeah but your action won’t solve the entire problem” where «problem» is a massive systemic issue; as if that kind of reply were worth considering or profound or something.

      My sad friend, I know you’re dispirited and discouraged. But don’t spread your shit on other people’s optimism.

      We don’t need to solve the ENTIRE problem to make a substantial improvement. Every small act of restoration is a valuable act of defiance. Do it not because it solves EVERYTHING; do it because it solves SOMETHING. Let yourself be known as a helper, someone who does what CAN be done, while looking for opportunities to do EVEN MORE.

      Don’t become a speed bump on someone else’s journey to find solutions.

      Be part of the solution, be curious and learn to help, or be muted/blocked.

      cmsdengl@mas.toC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #15

      @drahardja

      "EV cars are not the solution to global warming. We need to move to zero cars. And heat our houses using a treadmill!"

      I've muted people for this crap.

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      • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

        @drahardja A lot of solutions I’ve seen proposed to complex problems have misunderstood the root cause of the problem, economics, psychology, or (in some cases) all three. As a result, the best that they will accomplish is adding complexity to a system but not actually addressing the problem (which may make it harder to actually fix). At worst, they will exacerbate and entrench the problem.

        Doing nothing can be better than doing something if the something is counterproductive. If you have an oil fire on your cooker and someone is about to pour water on it, stopping them won’t put out the fire but it’s still the right choice.

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        #16

        @david_chisnall @drahardja Every problem has a simple and obvious solution that will make things worse.

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        • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

          I’ve probably said this before, but I don’t get why people reply with “yeah but your action won’t solve the entire problem” where «problem» is a massive systemic issue; as if that kind of reply were worth considering or profound or something.

          My sad friend, I know you’re dispirited and discouraged. But don’t spread your shit on other people’s optimism.

          We don’t need to solve the ENTIRE problem to make a substantial improvement. Every small act of restoration is a valuable act of defiance. Do it not because it solves EVERYTHING; do it because it solves SOMETHING. Let yourself be known as a helper, someone who does what CAN be done, while looking for opportunities to do EVEN MORE.

          Don’t become a speed bump on someone else’s journey to find solutions.

          Be part of the solution, be curious and learn to help, or be muted/blocked.

          vantablack2000@mastodon.gamedev.placeV This user is from outside of this forum
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          #17

          @drahardja Yeah at the very least add a but. Like "It won't solve the entire problem, BUT it's a step in the right direction" just saying it won't solve the entire problem, so you curl up and die without fixing it does no one any good.

          Unless they can propose a solution to the problem that DOES fix the entire problem then no point in dismissing progress.

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          • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

            I’ve probably said this before, but I don’t get why people reply with “yeah but your action won’t solve the entire problem” where «problem» is a massive systemic issue; as if that kind of reply were worth considering or profound or something.

            My sad friend, I know you’re dispirited and discouraged. But don’t spread your shit on other people’s optimism.

            We don’t need to solve the ENTIRE problem to make a substantial improvement. Every small act of restoration is a valuable act of defiance. Do it not because it solves EVERYTHING; do it because it solves SOMETHING. Let yourself be known as a helper, someone who does what CAN be done, while looking for opportunities to do EVEN MORE.

            Don’t become a speed bump on someone else’s journey to find solutions.

            Be part of the solution, be curious and learn to help, or be muted/blocked.

            hmlivy@dobbs.townH This user is from outside of this forum
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            #18

            @drahardja
            One brick is not the entire house. But it is the necessary first step so that we may build it.

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            • cmsdengl@mas.toC cmsdengl@mas.to

              @drahardja

              "EV cars are not the solution to global warming. We need to move to zero cars. And heat our houses using a treadmill!"

              I've muted people for this crap.

              arclight@oldbytes.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #19

              @cmsdengl @drahardja (scoffs) "_Treadmills_? Clearly the only real solution is to _smash capitalism!_"

              Seriously. "Because Capitalism" is a tiresome thought ender to justify doing nothing. How about we reduce the symptoms until we devise a cure? No? Because that sounds like work and requires more thought and creativity than just telling people to _smash capitalism_?

              Absolutely mute-able.

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              • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                I’ve probably said this before, but I don’t get why people reply with “yeah but your action won’t solve the entire problem” where «problem» is a massive systemic issue; as if that kind of reply were worth considering or profound or something.

                My sad friend, I know you’re dispirited and discouraged. But don’t spread your shit on other people’s optimism.

                We don’t need to solve the ENTIRE problem to make a substantial improvement. Every small act of restoration is a valuable act of defiance. Do it not because it solves EVERYTHING; do it because it solves SOMETHING. Let yourself be known as a helper, someone who does what CAN be done, while looking for opportunities to do EVEN MORE.

                Don’t become a speed bump on someone else’s journey to find solutions.

                Be part of the solution, be curious and learn to help, or be muted/blocked.

                ajroach42@retro.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                #20

                @drahardja

                > My sad friend, I know you’re dispirited and discouraged. But don’t spread your shit on other people’s optimism.

                I feel like I have to borrow this line.

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                • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                  I’ve probably said this before, but I don’t get why people reply with “yeah but your action won’t solve the entire problem” where «problem» is a massive systemic issue; as if that kind of reply were worth considering or profound or something.

                  My sad friend, I know you’re dispirited and discouraged. But don’t spread your shit on other people’s optimism.

                  We don’t need to solve the ENTIRE problem to make a substantial improvement. Every small act of restoration is a valuable act of defiance. Do it not because it solves EVERYTHING; do it because it solves SOMETHING. Let yourself be known as a helper, someone who does what CAN be done, while looking for opportunities to do EVEN MORE.

                  Don’t become a speed bump on someone else’s journey to find solutions.

                  Be part of the solution, be curious and learn to help, or be muted/blocked.

                  cptbutton@dice.campC This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #21

                  @drahardja

                  A lot of time this seems to be because they have their preferred solution to the problem and feel anything else that ameliorates the problem interferes with getting their preferred solution implemented.

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                  • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                    I’ve probably said this before, but I don’t get why people reply with “yeah but your action won’t solve the entire problem” where «problem» is a massive systemic issue; as if that kind of reply were worth considering or profound or something.

                    My sad friend, I know you’re dispirited and discouraged. But don’t spread your shit on other people’s optimism.

                    We don’t need to solve the ENTIRE problem to make a substantial improvement. Every small act of restoration is a valuable act of defiance. Do it not because it solves EVERYTHING; do it because it solves SOMETHING. Let yourself be known as a helper, someone who does what CAN be done, while looking for opportunities to do EVEN MORE.

                    Don’t become a speed bump on someone else’s journey to find solutions.

                    Be part of the solution, be curious and learn to help, or be muted/blocked.

                    neia@zoner.workN This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #22

                    @drahardja@sfba.social Every small act helps someone! And every bit of reprieve means someone is a little more able to help with the problem! ​​

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                    • drahardja@sfba.socialD drahardja@sfba.social

                      I’ve probably said this before, but I don’t get why people reply with “yeah but your action won’t solve the entire problem” where «problem» is a massive systemic issue; as if that kind of reply were worth considering or profound or something.

                      My sad friend, I know you’re dispirited and discouraged. But don’t spread your shit on other people’s optimism.

                      We don’t need to solve the ENTIRE problem to make a substantial improvement. Every small act of restoration is a valuable act of defiance. Do it not because it solves EVERYTHING; do it because it solves SOMETHING. Let yourself be known as a helper, someone who does what CAN be done, while looking for opportunities to do EVEN MORE.

                      Don’t become a speed bump on someone else’s journey to find solutions.

                      Be part of the solution, be curious and learn to help, or be muted/blocked.

                      green_032@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #23

                      @drahardja Thks

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