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  • S sxan@midwest.social
    8. mar. 2025, 23.05

    Recommendations for a color, full duplex, laser printer?

    Another printer company (Brother) has fallen to the allure of “remote disable” if they object to you using your own device in a way they don’t like: trying to self-service, use third party inks, whatever. It’s at their discretion. Given printers are the sorts of devices to which you tend to want to have network access, preventing this is a lot of work.

    I’ve been looking at color duplex laser printers, and Brother has been at the top of the list, until they recently announcement that they’d disable printers using third party inks.

    BIFL to me implies that the company isn’t going to actively sabotage self-service, or restrict your usage of the thing, so I think this is an appropriate question for this c/.

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    counselingtechie@slrpnk.net
    wrote on 9. mar. 2025, 10.08 sidst redigeret af
    #17

    I admittedly have no idea; however, I also have never put my Brother printer on the network directly, I would use a serial USB B cable to connect it to a computer and share it through the computer.

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    • C counselingtechie@slrpnk.net
      9. mar. 2025, 10.08

      I admittedly have no idea; however, I also have never put my Brother printer on the network directly, I would use a serial USB B cable to connect it to a computer and share it through the computer.

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      sxan@midwest.social
      wrote on 9. mar. 2025, 14.34 sidst redigeret af
      #18

      Yeah, that’s one of the firewall options: dedicate a computer as a print server. Or, actually firewall off the device in the router. Both are often more work than just putting the device on the LAN. And then there are the firmware upgrades, which sometimes have actual benefit.

      For years I used Jabra conference speakers. It was shocking just how often they needed firmware updates, and sometimes I’d discover I needed a firmware update because the speaker started acting funny. It’s a darned speaker; much less complex than a printer. I have trouble imagining what possible monetization Jabra could have been getting out of the upgrades.

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      • R robottoaster@mander.xyz
        9. mar. 2025, 02.43

        This doesn’t help you as it’s not colour, but a few days ago I found out that HP, of all people, make a toner tank printer that takes powdered toner https://www.hp.com/za-en/printers/laserjet-tank.html

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        sxan@midwest.social
        wrote on 9. mar. 2025, 15.03 sidst redigeret af
        #19

        My mono Brother took powdered toner. It still gets everywhere if you turn it upside down, which is what happened to mine. I’m just glad it all stayed in the box.

        I was young, and we were moving across country for a job; not only was I ignorant about needing to prep the printer with special steps, but it would have been low on my priority list amongst all of the other chaos.

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        • P psythik@lemm.ee
          9. mar. 2025, 02.36

          I’ve had good results with Canon printers. They accept 3rd party ink/toner just fine, will still print even if low, and the software interface looks like it hasn’t changed since the Windows 95 days. Which means no extra BS included cause it’s too outdated for that. Just everything you need to print and scan, and nothing more.

          My only complaint is that the initial setup is a major pain in the ass, but once you get the printer to stop whining and finally connect to the network, it just works, and works flawlessly with any device. I can effortlessly print from any PC or phone in the house.

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          sxan@midwest.social
          wrote on 9. mar. 2025, 15.05 sidst redigeret af
          #20

          Tell me about the set up? The printer I’ve been looking at was, indeed, a Canon.

          People are recommending waiting to see how the Brother controversy plays out, but I’m not opposed to Canon. I’ve always been happy with their products.

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          • S sxan@midwest.social
            8. mar. 2025, 23.05

            Recommendations for a color, full duplex, laser printer?

            Another printer company (Brother) has fallen to the allure of “remote disable” if they object to you using your own device in a way they don’t like: trying to self-service, use third party inks, whatever. It’s at their discretion. Given printers are the sorts of devices to which you tend to want to have network access, preventing this is a lot of work.

            I’ve been looking at color duplex laser printers, and Brother has been at the top of the list, until they recently announcement that they’d disable printers using third party inks.

            BIFL to me implies that the company isn’t going to actively sabotage self-service, or restrict your usage of the thing, so I think this is an appropriate question for this c/.

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            vacuumvigilante@lemmy.world
            wrote on 9. mar. 2025, 19.28 sidst redigeret af
            #21

            I’ve not read beyond the headline rants, but isn’t the Brother kerfuffle over third party toner? Perhaps I’m in the minority, but I couldn’t care less. Toner lasts FOREVER for the average home user. I bought this printer in 2018 and it is phenomenal: https://a.co/d/5Khc2Xn

            So far I’ve only had to replace the starter toner it came with. It’s been telling me for over a year that some colors are low and so I have $400 of toner sitting in a closet: https://a.co/d/eYtMZma

            My BIFL recommendation is for this Brother. It’s never given any sort of issue. I do let it automatically update its firmware, but that’s an option and not a requirement.

            I don’t trust cheap toner and think buying OEM is worth the cost given how long it takes to use up. It’s not like inkjet crapola that dried up.

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            • L lastyearsirritant@sopuli.xyz
              9. mar. 2025, 00.37

              Brother is saying they won’t “brick” your printer. Sounds like they’re only denying the most extreme description and not what they’re actually doing.

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              nomad@infosec.pub
              wrote on 9. mar. 2025, 20.37 sidst redigeret af
              #22

              They are saying they are not reducing print quality intentionally if not using the wrong toner cartridge.

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              • S sxan@midwest.social
                8. mar. 2025, 23.05

                Recommendations for a color, full duplex, laser printer?

                Another printer company (Brother) has fallen to the allure of “remote disable” if they object to you using your own device in a way they don’t like: trying to self-service, use third party inks, whatever. It’s at their discretion. Given printers are the sorts of devices to which you tend to want to have network access, preventing this is a lot of work.

                I’ve been looking at color duplex laser printers, and Brother has been at the top of the list, until they recently announcement that they’d disable printers using third party inks.

                BIFL to me implies that the company isn’t going to actively sabotage self-service, or restrict your usage of the thing, so I think this is an appropriate question for this c/.

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                bradleyuffner@lemmy.world
                wrote on 9. mar. 2025, 20.54 sidst redigeret af
                #23

                Keep in mind that the “primary source” for the entire Brother printer thing is a single unverified 3 year old Reddit post.

                I bought a Brother MFC L8900CDW on the latest firmware, and just tested some 3rd party toner. It worked without complaint.

                Printing and scanning both also worked flawlessly in Linux, right you of the box, without any special software if you care about such things.

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                • B bradleyuffner@lemmy.world
                  9. mar. 2025, 20.54

                  Keep in mind that the “primary source” for the entire Brother printer thing is a single unverified 3 year old Reddit post.

                  I bought a Brother MFC L8900CDW on the latest firmware, and just tested some 3rd party toner. It worked without complaint.

                  Printing and scanning both also worked flawlessly in Linux, right you of the box, without any special software if you care about such things.

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                  sxan@midwest.social
                  wrote on 10. mar. 2025, 00.49 sidst redigeret af
                  #24

                  Yes, I do care. Thanks for the clarification.

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                  • S sxan@midwest.social
                    9. mar. 2025, 15.05

                    Tell me about the set up? The printer I’ve been looking at was, indeed, a Canon.

                    People are recommending waiting to see how the Brother controversy plays out, but I’m not opposed to Canon. I’ve always been happy with their products.

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                    psythik@lemm.ee
                    wrote on 10. mar. 2025, 01.47 sidst redigeret af
                    #25

                    Mostly straightforward but it didn’t want to recognize the printer at first. Don’t remember the details cause it was over a year ago at this point, but IIRC it involved trying different USB cables and/or messing with WiFi settings in the router.

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                    • S sxan@midwest.social
                      8. mar. 2025, 23.05

                      Recommendations for a color, full duplex, laser printer?

                      Another printer company (Brother) has fallen to the allure of “remote disable” if they object to you using your own device in a way they don’t like: trying to self-service, use third party inks, whatever. It’s at their discretion. Given printers are the sorts of devices to which you tend to want to have network access, preventing this is a lot of work.

                      I’ve been looking at color duplex laser printers, and Brother has been at the top of the list, until they recently announcement that they’d disable printers using third party inks.

                      BIFL to me implies that the company isn’t going to actively sabotage self-service, or restrict your usage of the thing, so I think this is an appropriate question for this c/.

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                      rumba@lemmy.zip
                      wrote on 10. mar. 2025, 03.28 sidst redigeret af
                      #26

                      If brother does actually fall off the cliff, (and I’m not convinced it has yet)I probably would just buy any used Enterprise level MFP. Like the HP DN class. The engines are solid, they’re designed to be maintainable, their page counter per month is so huge they’re well overbuilt for home use.

                      HP is a pretty shitty company but they’re careful not to alienate their enterprise customers.

                      You’re going to pay a fortune to put toner in it but that toner will last forever.

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                      • S sxan@midwest.social
                        8. mar. 2025, 23.05

                        Recommendations for a color, full duplex, laser printer?

                        Another printer company (Brother) has fallen to the allure of “remote disable” if they object to you using your own device in a way they don’t like: trying to self-service, use third party inks, whatever. It’s at their discretion. Given printers are the sorts of devices to which you tend to want to have network access, preventing this is a lot of work.

                        I’ve been looking at color duplex laser printers, and Brother has been at the top of the list, until they recently announcement that they’d disable printers using third party inks.

                        BIFL to me implies that the company isn’t going to actively sabotage self-service, or restrict your usage of the thing, so I think this is an appropriate question for this c/.

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                        zod000@lemmy.ml
                        wrote on 11. mar. 2025, 19.35 sidst redigeret af
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                        My Brother color laser printer (HL-L8360CDW) hasn’t had any issues as those reported. I’m skeptical of those reports until I see it verified by trusted sources.

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                        • S sxan@midwest.social
                          8. mar. 2025, 23.05

                          Recommendations for a color, full duplex, laser printer?

                          Another printer company (Brother) has fallen to the allure of “remote disable” if they object to you using your own device in a way they don’t like: trying to self-service, use third party inks, whatever. It’s at their discretion. Given printers are the sorts of devices to which you tend to want to have network access, preventing this is a lot of work.

                          I’ve been looking at color duplex laser printers, and Brother has been at the top of the list, until they recently announcement that they’d disable printers using third party inks.

                          BIFL to me implies that the company isn’t going to actively sabotage self-service, or restrict your usage of the thing, so I think this is an appropriate question for this c/.

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                          wrote on 15. mar. 2025, 18.20 sidst redigeret af
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                          I bought a refurbished old laser brother 5 years ago and it’s a tank. I’d go that route again personally

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                          • S steve@communick.news
                            8. mar. 2025, 23.20

                            As far as I know there’s none.
                            I’m pretty sure Brother is the last hold out against the dark side.

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                            wrote on 21. mar. 2025, 12.59 sidst redigeret af
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                            Oki (formerly Okidata) has always had the ethical higher ground, above Brother, AFAICT. Brother does partake in ink waste shenanigans with their inkjets.

                            But you can’t be in the US. Oki pulled out of the US marketplace.

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