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  • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

    "Hello my name is Tovalds and I'd like to stick this fork into the Bitkeeper electrical socket again"

    https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

    What is it with privileged white men who feel their position in society as a coddled person makes the concerns of every other living being a nuance to be fought until we all just accept the bright end-of-history where there is nothing wrong because there is no politics.

    There are problems. Your hand waving isn't actually magic and doesn't make them disappear.

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    luc0x61@mastodon.uno
    wrote sidst redigeret af
    #9

    @doctormo They're all on the same play. This is a meme to remember how they don't need to be billionaires to make arrogant assholes, still treated like messiah by many. I'm sure you can spot some everywhere, in your daily routine.

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    • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

      "Hello my name is Tovalds and I'd like to stick this fork into the Bitkeeper electrical socket again"

      https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

      What is it with privileged white men who feel their position in society as a coddled person makes the concerns of every other living being a nuance to be fought until we all just accept the bright end-of-history where there is nothing wrong because there is no politics.

      There are problems. Your hand waving isn't actually magic and doesn't make them disappear.

      mrkeen@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      mrkeen@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
      mrkeen@mastodon.social
      wrote sidst redigeret af
      #10

      @doctormo Complete mischaracterisation. Andrew Tridgell stuck his fork into the BitKeeper electrical socket. Torvalds fixed the situation so hard that now the whole world uses git.

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      • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

        "Hello my name is Tovalds and I'd like to stick this fork into the Bitkeeper electrical socket again"

        https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

        What is it with privileged white men who feel their position in society as a coddled person makes the concerns of every other living being a nuance to be fought until we all just accept the bright end-of-history where there is nothing wrong because there is no politics.

        There are problems. Your hand waving isn't actually magic and doesn't make them disappear.

        dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
        dzwiedziu@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
        dzwiedziu@mastodon.social
        wrote sidst redigeret af
        #11

        @doctormo
        https://mastodon.social/@dzwiedziu/116924626522611982

        @zzt

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        • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

          "Hello my name is Tovalds and I'd like to stick this fork into the Bitkeeper electrical socket again"

          https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

          What is it with privileged white men who feel their position in society as a coddled person makes the concerns of every other living being a nuance to be fought until we all just accept the bright end-of-history where there is nothing wrong because there is no politics.

          There are problems. Your hand waving isn't actually magic and doesn't make them disappear.

          dasmatus@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
          dasmatus@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
          dasmatus@mastodon.social
          wrote sidst redigeret af
          #12

          @doctormo If the tool is used properly then it'll boost their productivity of the maintainer, just like an electric screwdriver. If not, then you can get shot in the foot with it. The problem is that many people get shot in the foot by using the tool, disliking it and then never using it again.

          mythosmarzipan@mastodon.socialM 1 Reply Last reply
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          • dasmatus@mastodon.socialD dasmatus@mastodon.social

            @doctormo If the tool is used properly then it'll boost their productivity of the maintainer, just like an electric screwdriver. If not, then you can get shot in the foot with it. The problem is that many people get shot in the foot by using the tool, disliking it and then never using it again.

            mythosmarzipan@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            mythosmarzipan@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            mythosmarzipan@mastodon.social
            wrote sidst redigeret af
            #13

            @dasmatus @doctormo asbestos is still toxic even though it provides insulation. Its a tool, and one that you shouldn't want in your house, workplace, or anywhere you are living or doing construction (or might be in the future) because it makes a huge toxic mess in the long run.

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            • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

              "Hello my name is Tovalds and I'd like to stick this fork into the Bitkeeper electrical socket again"

              https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

              What is it with privileged white men who feel their position in society as a coddled person makes the concerns of every other living being a nuance to be fought until we all just accept the bright end-of-history where there is nothing wrong because there is no politics.

              There are problems. Your hand waving isn't actually magic and doesn't make them disappear.

              seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS This user is from outside of this forum
              seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS This user is from outside of this forum
              seconduniverse@autistics.life
              wrote sidst redigeret af
              #14

              @doctormo

              "The kernel project continues to be about technology, Torvalds added, and while the social angle of developing open source software is an important aspect, it is a “side benefit, not the point of the project.” "

              So wrong. The social aspect is the whole point. The tool is a side benefit.

              seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS jens@social.finkhaeuser.deJ 2 Replies Last reply
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              • seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS seconduniverse@autistics.life

                @doctormo

                "The kernel project continues to be about technology, Torvalds added, and while the social angle of developing open source software is an important aspect, it is a “side benefit, not the point of the project.” "

                So wrong. The social aspect is the whole point. The tool is a side benefit.

                seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS This user is from outside of this forum
                seconduniverse@autistics.lifeS This user is from outside of this forum
                seconduniverse@autistics.life
                wrote sidst redigeret af
                #15

                @doctormo There is no open source software if, regardless of your licensing and copyright terms, the maintainers of the project are all megacorpse datacenters.

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                • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

                  "Hello my name is Tovalds and I'd like to stick this fork into the Bitkeeper electrical socket again"

                  https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

                  What is it with privileged white men who feel their position in society as a coddled person makes the concerns of every other living being a nuance to be fought until we all just accept the bright end-of-history where there is nothing wrong because there is no politics.

                  There are problems. Your hand waving isn't actually magic and doesn't make them disappear.

                  jairajdevadiga@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jairajdevadiga@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  jairajdevadiga@mastodon.social
                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                  #16

                  @doctormo The two personalities of Linus Torvalds.

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                  • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

                    "Hello my name is Tovalds and I'd like to stick this fork into the Bitkeeper electrical socket again"

                    https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

                    What is it with privileged white men who feel their position in society as a coddled person makes the concerns of every other living being a nuance to be fought until we all just accept the bright end-of-history where there is nothing wrong because there is no politics.

                    There are problems. Your hand waving isn't actually magic and doesn't make them disappear.

                    jairajdevadiga@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    jairajdevadiga@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
                    jairajdevadiga@mastodon.social
                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                    #17

                    @doctormo I hope someone does fork the Linux kernel. We can't rely on this slop filled version for any important work.

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                    • paul@notnull.spaceP This user is from outside of this forum
                      paul@notnull.spaceP This user is from outside of this forum
                      paul@notnull.space
                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                      #18

                      @doctormo @Cheeseness
                      "AI is just" - A Tool

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                      • cheeseness@mastodon.socialC cheeseness@mastodon.social

                        @doctormo Whenever people say "it's just a tool," I remember that asbestos is also just a tool.

                        geospacedman@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                        geospacedman@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
                        geospacedman@mastodon.social
                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                        #19

                        @Cheeseness @doctormo Slavery is just a tool - it was used to produce a toxic product to people who didn't need it for the benefit of a few hyper-rich. No wait that's GenAI.

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                        • koushiniku@hachyderm.ioK koushiniku@hachyderm.io

                          @doctormo Last time I saw that finger it was aimed at NVidia. 🤷‍♂️

                          skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
                          skjeggtroll@mastodon.onlineS This user is from outside of this forum
                          skjeggtroll@mastodon.online
                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                          #20

                          @koushiniku @doctormo

                          That's where it's from. The Register re-used an old photo.

                          https://www.theregister.com/software/2012/06/18/linus-torvalds-drops-f-bomb-on-nvidia/1525362

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                          • mrkeen@mastodon.socialM mrkeen@mastodon.social

                            @doctormo Complete mischaracterisation. Andrew Tridgell stuck his fork into the BitKeeper electrical socket. Torvalds fixed the situation so hard that now the whole world uses git.

                            leeloo@c.imL This user is from outside of this forum
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                            leeloo@c.im
                            wrote sidst redigeret af
                            #21

                            @mrkeen @doctormo
                            Andrew Tridgell needed to use Bitkeeper to do his job. But the license prevented him from using the official client, so he wrote his own, just like he had previously done for Windows file sharing. But BitKeeper was much more anti-interoperability than Microsoft in their "Linux is a cancer and the GPL is a virus" years.

                            The reason Andrew Tridgell was forced to use BitKeeper was that Linus Thorvalds had decided that it would be a great idea to lock kernel development into a proprietary system.

                            The similarity here is the decision to ignore ethics and legality¹ as long as Linus feels the tool does the job.

                            ¹) BitKeeper had a license forbidding developers like Andrew Tridgell from using it. AI is built on large scale copyright violation, and while people like Sam Altman are rich enough to pretend that copyright law has already been abolished, politicians haven't yet gotten around to do so.

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                            • paul@notnull.spaceP paul@notnull.space

                              @doctormo @Cheeseness
                              "AI is just" - A Tool

                              marjolica@social.linux.pizzaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              marjolica@social.linux.pizza
                              wrote sidst redigeret af
                              #22

                              @paul @doctormo @Cheeseness as when describing someone as "A tool" - worthless and dysfunctional.

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                              • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

                                "Hello my name is Tovalds and I'd like to stick this fork into the Bitkeeper electrical socket again"

                                https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

                                What is it with privileged white men who feel their position in society as a coddled person makes the concerns of every other living being a nuance to be fought until we all just accept the bright end-of-history where there is nothing wrong because there is no politics.

                                There are problems. Your hand waving isn't actually magic and doesn't make them disappear.

                                david@social.piconet.workD This user is from outside of this forum
                                david@social.piconet.workD This user is from outside of this forum
                                david@social.piconet.work
                                wrote sidst redigeret af
                                #23

                                @doctormo I am getting pretty fed up with Torvalds and his attitude. He's been getting more and more angry over the years.

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                                • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

                                  "Hello my name is Tovalds and I'd like to stick this fork into the Bitkeeper electrical socket again"

                                  https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

                                  What is it with privileged white men who feel their position in society as a coddled person makes the concerns of every other living being a nuance to be fought until we all just accept the bright end-of-history where there is nothing wrong because there is no politics.

                                  There are problems. Your hand waving isn't actually magic and doesn't make them disappear.

                                  oatmeal@kolektiva.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                                  oatmeal@kolektiva.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                                  oatmeal@kolektiva.social
                                  wrote sidst redigeret af
                                  #24

                                  @doctormo it’s pathetic the register too ignores the reasons to why many people have objections to llm (ai is marketing not a technology) starting with the massive theft it’s based on and the exploitations of data workers. The objection is not for llm as “tool”. This industry that produces them is deeply immoral and corrupt if not fascist.

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                                  • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

                                    "Hello my name is Tovalds and I'd like to stick this fork into the Bitkeeper electrical socket again"

                                    https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

                                    What is it with privileged white men who feel their position in society as a coddled person makes the concerns of every other living being a nuance to be fought until we all just accept the bright end-of-history where there is nothing wrong because there is no politics.

                                    There are problems. Your hand waving isn't actually magic and doesn't make them disappear.

                                    noordsestern@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                                    noordsestern@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
                                    noordsestern@mastodon.social
                                    wrote sidst redigeret af
                                    #25

                                    @doctormo

                                    Linus said nothing about slop. All he said was he won't ban the use of AI. And he won't force anyone to use it, but all who want an AI _ban_ can walk away.

                                    In the end of the article there is even the quote of a senior maintainer stating that the AI reports start to be good. Shall they just ignore real reports?

                                    AI slop is a serious thread. But this article is the wrong battleground to fight it.

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                                    • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

                                      "Hello my name is Tovalds and I'd like to stick this fork into the Bitkeeper electrical socket again"

                                      https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

                                      What is it with privileged white men who feel their position in society as a coddled person makes the concerns of every other living being a nuance to be fought until we all just accept the bright end-of-history where there is nothing wrong because there is no politics.

                                      There are problems. Your hand waving isn't actually magic and doesn't make them disappear.

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                                      S This user is from outside of this forum
                                      simpleanecdote@mastodon.social
                                      wrote sidst redigeret af
                                      #26

                                      @doctormo it's no surprise that an aging FOSS purist like Linus still sees tech as neutral. I think we need to have serious discussions as a community about freedom zero. It should have been clear to us that freedom zero requires adjustment when the world's weapons and surveillance systems were built leveraging FOSS tech. The Do No Harm license got ridiculed. However, at least it seems clearer to more of us now, in the wake of LLMs, we need ethical open source. We need to rework freedom zero.

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                                      • doctormo@floss.socialD doctormo@floss.social

                                        "Hello my name is Tovalds and I'd like to stick this fork into the Bitkeeper electrical socket again"

                                        https://www.theregister.com/ai-and-ml/2026/07/15/linus-torvalds-tells-ai-haters-to-fork-off/5271894

                                        What is it with privileged white men who feel their position in society as a coddled person makes the concerns of every other living being a nuance to be fought until we all just accept the bright end-of-history where there is nothing wrong because there is no politics.

                                        There are problems. Your hand waving isn't actually magic and doesn't make them disappear.

                                        rzeta0@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
                                        rzeta0@mastodon.ieR This user is from outside of this forum
                                        rzeta0@mastodon.ie
                                        wrote sidst redigeret af
                                        #27

                                        @doctormo

                                        tech nerds with low social intelligence and too much power

                                        that will be the history of the 21st century

                                        #tech #history #capitalism #technofacism #fascism #opensource

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                                        • rzeta0@mastodon.ieR rzeta0@mastodon.ie

                                          @doctormo

                                          tech nerds with low social intelligence and too much power

                                          that will be the history of the 21st century

                                          #tech #history #capitalism #technofacism #fascism #opensource

                                          sidhewolf@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          sidhewolf@mastodon.social
                                          wrote sidst redigeret af
                                          #28

                                          @rzeta0 @doctormo Facts. And historians should note that people found them so fucking exhausting and detestable.

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