Oh yeah shouldn't be too hard to use tech without supporting bad actors.
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@ellesaurus I have been trying to de-google for about a year now, with the added constraint that I don't have a ton of money to spend. I tried the pinephone with limited success and I have been looking for an OEM unlockable google pixel with no success. Any other hobbyists out there found good options?
@jb643 I have a Fairphone 5 with LineageOS. One of the reasons I chose the Fairphone was because you don't need to do any tinkering to unlock the bootloader.
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Oh yeah shouldn't be too hard to use tech without supporting bad actors. Just gotta replace my phone, my phone OS, my phone keyboard, my desktop OS, my work OS, my email, my code editor, my cloud backup, my office software, my maps app, my source hosting, my image editor, my
@ellesaurus There are two kinds of people who self-righteously advocate this:
1. People who have been going against the prevailing winds for decades and have set up their lives around it already without thinking of the effort they'd expended.
2. Pretentious liars who use all those services they decry, but pretend not to.
Smart and honest people advocate disengagement by stages.
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@ellesaurus I have been trying to de-google for about a year now, with the added constraint that I don't have a ton of money to spend. I tried the pinephone with limited success and I have been looking for an OEM unlockable google pixel with no success. Any other hobbyists out there found good options?
@jb643 @ellesaurus I have almost completely de-Googled. (The only Google vestige I have left is an Android phone, but it's a Chinese one so it has a completely and refreshingly DIFFERENT set of bad actors in it.)
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Oh yeah shouldn't be too hard to use tech without supporting bad actors. Just gotta replace my phone, my phone OS, my phone keyboard, my desktop OS, my work OS, my email, my code editor, my cloud backup, my office software, my maps app, my source hosting, my image editor, my
@ellesaurus just stop using tech
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Oh yeah shouldn't be too hard to use tech without supporting bad actors. Just gotta replace my phone, my phone OS, my phone keyboard, my desktop OS, my work OS, my email, my code editor, my cloud backup, my office software, my maps app, my source hosting, my image editor, my
read enshittification and get going on it.
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Oh yeah shouldn't be too hard to use tech without supporting bad actors. Just gotta replace my phone, my phone OS, my phone keyboard, my desktop OS, my work OS, my email, my code editor, my cloud backup, my office software, my maps app, my source hosting, my image editor, my
@ellesaurus So often it is just one aspect that kills it. I have a steady income and generally enough wiggle room to not turn over every cent, but my budget is not unlimited.
Many of the alternative OSs are only available for Samsung and Pixel phones, which are too expensive. Maybe a used one?
But then I check reviews and in all cases I have found so far, the camera quality completely goes down the drain. Camera quality is a huge factor in choosing the phones that I buy...I am using FOSS wherever I can, but my phone OS has proven to be quite stubborn...
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Oh yeah shouldn't be too hard to use tech without supporting bad actors. Just gotta replace my phone, my phone OS, my phone keyboard, my desktop OS, my work OS, my email, my code editor, my cloud backup, my office software, my maps app, my source hosting, my image editor, my
@ellesaurus The struggle.
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Oh yeah shouldn't be too hard to use tech without supporting bad actors. Just gotta replace my phone, my phone OS, my phone keyboard, my desktop OS, my work OS, my email, my code editor, my cloud backup, my office software, my maps app, my source hosting, my image editor, my
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Oh yeah shouldn't be too hard to use tech without supporting bad actors. Just gotta replace my phone, my phone OS, my phone keyboard, my desktop OS, my work OS, my email, my code editor, my cloud backup, my office software, my maps app, my source hosting, my image editor, my
@ellesaurus
Without supporting bad actors nowerdays seems to be nearly Impossible. But it is possible with limited compexity to reduce support by 80%.
Operating systems, email provider, cloud systems, mobile services, maps apps and source hosting are available from the good guys, sometimes even cheaper (even in terms of spending Money
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@ellesaurus So often it is just one aspect that kills it. I have a steady income and generally enough wiggle room to not turn over every cent, but my budget is not unlimited.
Many of the alternative OSs are only available for Samsung and Pixel phones, which are too expensive. Maybe a used one?
But then I check reviews and in all cases I have found so far, the camera quality completely goes down the drain. Camera quality is a huge factor in choosing the phones that I buy...I am using FOSS wherever I can, but my phone OS has proven to be quite stubborn...
@leto_fregar @ellesaurus Definitely. I found it relatively simple to get rid of a lot of the software/apps (Google search, drive, maps, Dropbox, Adobe). I still need to visit the Google maps website to find some businesses once in a while. Still watch YouTube. Otherwise I've moved to European, Canadian, Australian and Japanese alternatives this year.
But the real issue is the OS, especially the mobile OS — I don't know where to begin. I still want to use mobile banking etc.
