"Well, no one can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory like the Democrats."
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"Well, no one can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory like the Democrats."
~ Dan Pfeiffer
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/1https://www.messageboxnews.com/p/thoughts-on-democrats-shutdown-surrender
"How about we shut down the government for this very popular and specific goal and then, hear me out, we hold out for like a month and a half and then, ok this part is important, after a watershed election where we ran the table, ONLY THEN, fold and don't get the one thing we said we wanted."
~ Dan Sinker
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"How about we shut down the government for this very popular and specific goal and then, hear me out, we hold out for like a month and a half and then, ok this part is important, after a watershed election where we ran the table, ONLY THEN, fold and don't get the one thing we said we wanted."
~ Dan Sinker
"A deal that doesn't reduce health care costs is a betrayal of millions of Americans counting on Democrats to fight for them.
Republicans want health care cuts.
Accepting nothing but a pinky promise from Republicans isn't a compromise — it's capitulation.
Millions of families would pay the price."
~ Greg Casar quoted by Aaron Parnas
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/3https://aaronparnas.substack.com/p/important-evening-news-update-5d3
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"A deal that doesn't reduce health care costs is a betrayal of millions of Americans counting on Democrats to fight for them.
Republicans want health care cuts.
Accepting nothing but a pinky promise from Republicans isn't a compromise — it's capitulation.
Millions of families would pay the price."
~ Greg Casar quoted by Aaron Parnas
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/3https://aaronparnas.substack.com/p/important-evening-news-update-5d3
"I have what I suspect is a somewhat counterintuitive take on the deal Senate Democrats’ Team Cave made with the Republican Senate caucus tonight. This is an embarrassing deal, a deal to basically settle for nothing. It’s particularly galling since it comes only days after the Democrats crushed Republicans across the country."
~ Josh Marshall
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/4https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-quick-take-on-team-caves-big-win
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"I have what I suspect is a somewhat counterintuitive take on the deal Senate Democrats’ Team Cave made with the Republican Senate caucus tonight. This is an embarrassing deal, a deal to basically settle for nothing. It’s particularly galling since it comes only days after the Democrats crushed Republicans across the country."
~ Josh Marshall
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/4https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/a-quick-take-on-team-caves-big-win
"Election Day not only showed that Democrats had payed [sic] no price for the shutdown. It also confirmed the already abundant evidence that it has been deeply damaging for Donald Trump. But even with all this, I think the overall situation and outcome is basically fine."
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"Election Day not only showed that Democrats had payed [sic] no price for the shutdown. It also confirmed the already abundant evidence that it has been deeply damaging for Donald Trump. But even with all this, I think the overall situation and outcome is basically fine."
"What’s most perplexing about the decision of these eight caucusing Democrats to fold now is the timing.
According to the grisly political scoring of the shutdown blame game, the Democrats’ position was strengthening, not weakening. ...
But I can’t help feeling like the biggest takeaway from all this is that Donald Trump learns another lesson in the virtues of brazening it out."
~ Andrew Egger
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"What’s most perplexing about the decision of these eight caucusing Democrats to fold now is the timing.
According to the grisly political scoring of the shutdown blame game, the Democrats’ position was strengthening, not weakening. ...
But I can’t help feeling like the biggest takeaway from all this is that Donald Trump learns another lesson in the virtues of brazening it out."
~ Andrew Egger
Marcy Wheeler thinks the Democrats caved too soon:
"With one more week, Trump would have owned far more of the responsibility for SNAP and flight cutbacks."
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/7https://www.emptywheel.net/2025/11/10/eight-senate-dems-caved-and-caved-too-early/
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Marcy Wheeler thinks the Democrats caved too soon:
"With one more week, Trump would have owned far more of the responsibility for SNAP and flight cutbacks."
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/7https://www.emptywheel.net/2025/11/10/eight-senate-dems-caved-and-caved-too-early/
"Perhaps most infuriating is the betrayal of the millions and millions of Democrats who counted on a solid opposition to Trump and his congressional stooges."
~ Mark Mansour
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"Perhaps most infuriating is the betrayal of the millions and millions of Democrats who counted on a solid opposition to Trump and his congressional stooges."
~ Mark Mansour
"Democrats appear headed into another round of internal debate over strategy, priorities, and the path forward. Whether this flare-up becomes a brief family argument or a lasting schism may depend on what happens in the next few days on the House floor."
~ Aaron Parnas
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/9https://aaronparnas.substack.com/p/breaking-mike-johnson-will-swear
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"Democrats appear headed into another round of internal debate over strategy, priorities, and the path forward. Whether this flare-up becomes a brief family argument or a lasting schism may depend on what happens in the next few days on the House floor."
~ Aaron Parnas
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/9https://aaronparnas.substack.com/p/breaking-mike-johnson-will-swear
"Symone Sanders got it immediately: 'The hostage taking worked.' That’s the lesson Trump learned last night. That’s why Chris Murphy is right to fear Trump gets stronger, not weaker. When you teach authoritarians that threatening to hurt people produces Democratic capitulation, you haven’t minimized damage—you’ve guaranteed more hostage situations."
~ Mike Brock
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/10https://www.notesfromthecircus.com/p/chuck-schumer-doesnt-know-what-time
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"Symone Sanders got it immediately: 'The hostage taking worked.' That’s the lesson Trump learned last night. That’s why Chris Murphy is right to fear Trump gets stronger, not weaker. When you teach authoritarians that threatening to hurt people produces Democratic capitulation, you haven’t minimized damage—you’ve guaranteed more hostage situations."
~ Mike Brock
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/10https://www.notesfromthecircus.com/p/chuck-schumer-doesnt-know-what-time
"The American people just spoke loudly at the ballot box. They understand what’s at stake and are willing to endure temporary hardship to stop an authoritarian regime. Capitulating now doesn’t ease suffering, but rather it prolongs it. It tells Trump and his enablers that intimidation works."
~ Ben Meiselas
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/11https://www.meidasplus.com/p/monday-afternoon-breaking-news-updates
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"The American people just spoke loudly at the ballot box. They understand what’s at stake and are willing to endure temporary hardship to stop an authoritarian regime. Capitulating now doesn’t ease suffering, but rather it prolongs it. It tells Trump and his enablers that intimidation works."
~ Ben Meiselas
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/11https://www.meidasplus.com/p/monday-afternoon-breaking-news-updates
"What these votes should tell us, more than anything, is that these Democrats are not willing to fight for us, or to even fight for things that moderates and independents and even freaking Marjorie Taylor Greene want.
They’re not willing to do anything at all, and therefore must be replaced by those who will."
~ Wonkette
#Democrats #shutdown #Trump #healthcare
/12https://www.wonkette.com/p/caving-democrats-spit-in-americas
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