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  • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    #1

    I occasionally help an elderly neighbor get stuff done with their computer. And every single time, I walk away in incandescent rage at how hard we have made this stuff for people who have not spent their entire waking lives marinating in it

    riaresists@mastodon.socialR julianlawson@beige.partyJ samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS rvaughnmd@med-mastodon.comR byteback@mastodon.socialB 45 Replies Last reply
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    • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

      I occasionally help an elderly neighbor get stuff done with their computer. And every single time, I walk away in incandescent rage at how hard we have made this stuff for people who have not spent their entire waking lives marinating in it

      riaresists@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      #2

      @jalefkowit Thank you for helping her 🙏🏼

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      • riaresists@mastodon.socialR riaresists@mastodon.social

        @jalefkowit Thank you for helping her 🙏🏼

        jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @RiaResists That's what a neighbor is for 😀

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        • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

          I occasionally help an elderly neighbor get stuff done with their computer. And every single time, I walk away in incandescent rage at how hard we have made this stuff for people who have not spent their entire waking lives marinating in it

          julianlawson@beige.partyJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          #4

          @jalefkowit it's hard enough for people with 40 years of marinating.

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          • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

            I occasionally help an elderly neighbor get stuff done with their computer. And every single time, I walk away in incandescent rage at how hard we have made this stuff for people who have not spent their entire waking lives marinating in it

            samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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            #5

            @jalefkowit 100%. My worst ever support call was one from my elderly mother complaining her iPad was displaying "a cigar in a wine glass" that wouldn't go away. WTF?

            2 hour drive later: it was Siri. Activated by a software update done by a "helpful" nephew she had promised not to give access. Long press invoked it. She had a tremor so all presses were long (no adjustment possible). Only funny side: Siri messages reprimanding her for bad language.

            Dented her confidence hugely.

            Thanks Apple.

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            • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

              I occasionally help an elderly neighbor get stuff done with their computer. And every single time, I walk away in incandescent rage at how hard we have made this stuff for people who have not spent their entire waking lives marinating in it

              rvaughnmd@med-mastodon.comR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @jalefkowit

              Yes, hard to use but at least it's completely insecure and subject to exploitation by criminals in every nation on earth.

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              • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                I occasionally help an elderly neighbor get stuff done with their computer. And every single time, I walk away in incandescent rage at how hard we have made this stuff for people who have not spent their entire waking lives marinating in it

                samueljohnson@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #7

                @jalefkowit There's a funny account somewhere of Steve Ballmer trying to clean up viruses on his mother's computer and thinking it would be easy.

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                • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                  I occasionally help an elderly neighbor get stuff done with their computer. And every single time, I walk away in incandescent rage at how hard we have made this stuff for people who have not spent their entire waking lives marinating in it

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                  #8

                  @jalefkowit I've spent more time pouring over event logs so far this year for tier 1 support tickets than ever before.
                  Between the January updates and windows just being shit, you're absolutely right.

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                  • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                    I occasionally help an elderly neighbor get stuff done with their computer. And every single time, I walk away in incandescent rage at how hard we have made this stuff for people who have not spent their entire waking lives marinating in it

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                    #9

                    @jalefkowit Really?
                    Wanna go back to fucking around with IRQs and config.sys?
                    Installing Windows 3.1 from floppy disks?
                    Removing and re-adding TCP/IP from your dialup adapter in Windows 95 every week?
                    Screwing around with BBSs and BTX?
                    Getting printer drivers delivered by snail mail?
                    Bluescreens on a daily basis?
                    Reading the 300 page manual for Word Perfect?
                    All without Google?

                    I think measured by the possibilities a modern system delivers it has become incredibly easy to use.

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                    • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                      I occasionally help an elderly neighbor get stuff done with their computer. And every single time, I walk away in incandescent rage at how hard we have made this stuff for people who have not spent their entire waking lives marinating in it

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                      #10

                      Someone posted a reply saying that computers were harder in the past so it's fine they're hard now, which earned them an instant block. Thanks for identifying yourself as the kind of person I want nothing to do with

                      jtonline@mastodon.me.ukJ kentnavalesi@mstdn.socialK grishka@mastodon.socialG dandylyons@iosdev.spaceD andyb@mastodon.auA 6 Replies Last reply
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                      • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                        Someone posted a reply saying that computers were harder in the past so it's fine they're hard now, which earned them an instant block. Thanks for identifying yourself as the kind of person I want nothing to do with

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                        #11

                        @jalefkowit I'm sure computers were much easier in the past in many ways. I get exceedingly angry about all the dark patterns and BS my 12yo has to put up with these days.

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                        • jtonline@mastodon.me.ukJ jtonline@mastodon.me.uk

                          @jalefkowit I'm sure computers were much easier in the past in many ways. I get exceedingly angry about all the dark patterns and BS my 12yo has to put up with these days.

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                          @jtonline They were bad in the old days, but it was more excusable then (IMO) because the whole field was so new. Everybody had to figure out from scratch what worked and what didn't. Plus computers were much slower and had less resources; there weren't CPU cycles available for things like nice interfaces.

                          Today we know what works and we have the resources to do it. We just don't, because someone can make more money by making things hard

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                          • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                            @jtonline They were bad in the old days, but it was more excusable then (IMO) because the whole field was so new. Everybody had to figure out from scratch what worked and what didn't. Plus computers were much slower and had less resources; there weren't CPU cycles available for things like nice interfaces.

                            Today we know what works and we have the resources to do it. We just don't, because someone can make more money by making things hard

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                            @jalefkowit true, fiddling with little switches to get a mouse working was definitely bad! And it definitely seems like the incentives are all wrong these days. 😞

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                            • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                              I occasionally help an elderly neighbor get stuff done with their computer. And every single time, I walk away in incandescent rage at how hard we have made this stuff for people who have not spent their entire waking lives marinating in it

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                              @jalefkowit

                              "Why do you have to restart your computer to fix so many problems? Most coders don't take their job very seriously."

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                              • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                Someone posted a reply saying that computers were harder in the past so it's fine they're hard now, which earned them an instant block. Thanks for identifying yourself as the kind of person I want nothing to do with

                                kentnavalesi@mstdn.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #15

                                @jalefkowit

                                and FWIW it's questionable whether computers really were harder in the past.

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                                • kentnavalesi@mstdn.socialK kentnavalesi@mstdn.social

                                  @jalefkowit

                                  and FWIW it's questionable whether computers really were harder in the past.

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                                  @KentNavalesi I spent too much of my life trying to configure sound cards on MS-DOS, so I wouldn't say the past was perfect either 😆

                                  I just like to think we can always do better.

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                                  • jtonline@mastodon.me.ukJ jtonline@mastodon.me.uk

                                    @jalefkowit true, fiddling with little switches to get a mouse working was definitely bad! And it definitely seems like the incentives are all wrong these days. 😞

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                                    @jtonline @jalefkowit My mother in law had to force-reboot her laptop the other day, but couldn't because she has arthritis and the stupid, artfully designed tiny little power button was too small and tough for her to push.

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                                    • djdarren@mendeddrum.orgD djdarren@mendeddrum.org

                                      @jtonline @jalefkowit My mother in law had to force-reboot her laptop the other day, but couldn't because she has arthritis and the stupid, artfully designed tiny little power button was too small and tough for her to push.

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                                      @DJDarren @jtonline

                                      🤬

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                                      • jalefkowit@vmst.ioJ jalefkowit@vmst.io

                                        @DJDarren @jtonline

                                        🤬

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                                        @jalefkowit @DJDarren @jtonline

                                        My mum did just fine with a BBC micro and specific keyboard commands for markup in word processing which my dad printed and stuck to the noticeboard for her. Mum learned the 5 or 6 most useful by heart. Same for Claris Works and Apple System 7.x.

                                        The UI didn't change. The computer did not pop shit up at her. There was no spam (or Internet).

                                        I was also home 90% of the time to fix or talk Mum thru stuff patiently cos Mr Computing Degree Dad got grumpy.

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                                        • natalyad@disabled.socialN natalyad@disabled.social

                                          @jalefkowit @DJDarren @jtonline

                                          My mum did just fine with a BBC micro and specific keyboard commands for markup in word processing which my dad printed and stuck to the noticeboard for her. Mum learned the 5 or 6 most useful by heart. Same for Claris Works and Apple System 7.x.

                                          The UI didn't change. The computer did not pop shit up at her. There was no spam (or Internet).

                                          I was also home 90% of the time to fix or talk Mum thru stuff patiently cos Mr Computing Degree Dad got grumpy.

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                                          @jalefkowit

                                          I leave home and Mum works as a teacher, using Windows.

                                          Mum downloaded all kinds of malware marketed as "toolbars" "clipart for schools". Lots of meltdowns about popups/crap. Panic clicking the X button on ALL dialogs.

                                          Appleware from 2015 onwards has been better, but it's still not easy, although she's calmer now (retired) and I have remote-access options.

                                          Amazon tricks Mum into Prime subscriptions a lot. I've trained her to phone & middle class harass em

                                          @DJDarren @jtonline

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