I, for one, hail our EU overlords for staying their ground and not bending over to Apple.
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@harrysintonen The EU will "fall behind" on Apple Siri.

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I, for one, hail our EU overlords for staying their ground and not bending over to Apple.
This EU regulation did not come as a surprise to anyone, and definitely not to Apple. Yet they decided to go all knee-jerky about it.
Food for thought: If you cannot implement an AI feature in an interoperable and safe manner, it likely should not be implemented at all.
@harrysintonen I actually do think it’s safe, the way it’s currently implemented, but it’s definitely not interoperable, for good and for bad. I definitely trust Apple’s intentions with my data more than I would trust Meta’s, just to give one example. But I would like to have the freedom to decide what model to trigger from my computers, and that’s where it falls down, I guess.
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@harrysintonen
> any competing AI assistant would have to be granted the same deep system reach as Siri AI, including the ability to read and send messages, make purchases and act across apps.wouldn't it be great to have that kind of API accessible from a scripting language, or from some GUI "connect the blocks" automation engine?
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I, for one, hail our EU overlords for staying their ground and not bending over to Apple.
This EU regulation did not come as a surprise to anyone, and definitely not to Apple. Yet they decided to go all knee-jerky about it.
Food for thought: If you cannot implement an AI feature in an interoperable and safe manner, it likely should not be implemented at all.
But, you see, they really need "AI" in their shareholder reports.
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@harrysintonen That's funny since Gemini works in the EU and Siri AI is just Gemini with a different skin
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I, for one, hail our EU overlords for staying their ground and not bending over to Apple.
This EU regulation did not come as a surprise to anyone, and definitely not to Apple. Yet they decided to go all knee-jerky about it.
Food for thought: If you cannot implement an AI feature in an interoperable and safe manner, it likely should not be implemented at all.
@harrysintonen waiting for the bubble to pop is genuinely making me wanna switch to a google pixel with graphene or a Nokia faster and faster.
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I, for one, hail our EU overlords for staying their ground and not bending over to Apple.
This EU regulation did not come as a surprise to anyone, and definitely not to Apple. Yet they decided to go all knee-jerky about it.
Food for thought: If you cannot implement an AI feature in an interoperable and safe manner, it likely should not be implemented at all.
@harrysintonen it's just crazy how bad apple fumbled the whole AI rollout. They had to rebrand it before release because it was that bad. And now people are mad at the EU?
Basically after apple told them 2 years their devices would be capable to have it and now even not all the newest iPhones get it.
They shouldn't be mad at the EU, but Apple. And they should use EU consumer protection to sue for a device that is capable as they have been promised that.
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@harrysintonen it's just crazy how bad apple fumbled the whole AI rollout. They had to rebrand it before release because it was that bad. And now people are mad at the EU?
Basically after apple told them 2 years their devices would be capable to have it and now even not all the newest iPhones get it.
They shouldn't be mad at the EU, but Apple. And they should use EU consumer protection to sue for a device that is capable as they have been promised that.
@harrysintonen it's crazy how the apple fanboys get lied to and then defend apple for it.
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I, for one, hail our EU overlords for staying their ground and not bending over to Apple.
This EU regulation did not come as a surprise to anyone, and definitely not to Apple. Yet they decided to go all knee-jerky about it.
Food for thought: If you cannot implement an AI feature in an interoperable and safe manner, it likely should not be implemented at all.
@harrysintonen won't you think of the shareholders
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@harrysintonen I actually do think it’s safe, the way it’s currently implemented, but it’s definitely not interoperable, for good and for bad. I definitely trust Apple’s intentions with my data more than I would trust Meta’s, just to give one example. But I would like to have the freedom to decide what model to trigger from my computers, and that’s where it falls down, I guess.
@mikael @harrysintonen safe on what measure? they literally released with a known vulnerable architecture https://www.flyingpenguin.com/apple-wwdc-announces-privacy-leap-off-a-cliff/
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