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  • kats@chaosfem.twK kats@chaosfem.tw

    @Tutanota I'm less convinced about the AI agent promotion, especially in the light of the unfolding Clawdbot debacle.

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    #6

    @KatS Whoa, what's the debacle? I'm guessing something enshittified?

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    • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

      @KatS Whoa, what's the debacle? I'm guessing something enshittified?

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      #7

      @thejessiekirk Some techbro vibe-coded a half-million-LoC execution environment for AI agents in a couple of days, gave as much thought to security as he did to reviewability, and the 100% predictable hilarity is currently ensuing.

      We begin with an API key being included in plaintext in the client-side JS code, move on to... hell, here's one article on the subject: https://www.okta.com/newsroom/articles/agents-run-amok--identity-lessons-from-moltbook-s-ai-experiment/

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      • kats@chaosfem.twK kats@chaosfem.tw

        @thejessiekirk Some techbro vibe-coded a half-million-LoC execution environment for AI agents in a couple of days, gave as much thought to security as he did to reviewability, and the 100% predictable hilarity is currently ensuing.

        We begin with an API key being included in plaintext in the client-side JS code, move on to... hell, here's one article on the subject: https://www.okta.com/newsroom/articles/agents-run-amok--identity-lessons-from-moltbook-s-ai-experiment/

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        #8

        @thejessiekirk Edited because, as appealing as the execution of half a million AI agents might be, what I actually intended to type was "execution *environment."

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        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

          DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

          with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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          #9

          @Tutanota what is the reminders alternative

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          • shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS shadowwwind@fosstodon.org

            @Tutanota what is the reminders alternative

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            #10

            @shadowwwind @Tutanota

            Just noticed the @s. It looks like it's called NotesNook.

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            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

              @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

              Here are more tips to deGoogle: https://tuta.com/blog/degoogle-list

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              #11

              @Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI I feel liberated now that I've quit Google. It's wild how people just ignore the fact that half their search results are sponsored.

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              • I it_sme@mastodon.social

                @shadowwwind @Tutanota

                Just noticed the @s. It looks like it's called NotesNook.

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                #12

                @IT_SME @Tutanota no that is the notes app with the black and white icon

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                • I it_sme@mastodon.social

                  @shadowwwind @Tutanota

                  Just noticed the @s. It looks like it's called NotesNook.

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                  #13

                  @shadowwwind @Tutanota @notesnook

                  Screenshots look great. They boast about e2e encryption and privacy.

                  Was hoping to try before I buy and there is a free plan, but I can't figure out to select it. It feel intentionally unelectable.

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                  • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

                    @Tutanota I do wonder if promoting LLMs that have stolen the collective works of artists and, in fact, everyone, and continue to cause massive environmental damage is entirely ethical of you.

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                    #14

                    @thejessiekirk agree but they're not saying "please use LLMs" either. I think we gotta read the room and admit humans sadly reach for unhealthy things. if we know the kids are smoking shouldn't they at least be told the least toxic brand. mistral I think is the only EU made mode that can run locally on your own computer

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                    • shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS shadowwwind@fosstodon.org

                      @IT_SME @Tutanota no that is the notes app with the black and white icon

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                      #15

                      @shadowwwind

                      You're right.

                      I think the reminders app is "Tasks: To Do List & Reminders"

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                      • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

                        @Tutanota I do wonder if promoting LLMs that have stolen the collective works of artists and, in fact, everyone, and continue to cause massive environmental damage is entirely ethical of you.

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                        #16

                        @thejessiekirk You're right. That's also why we do not add AI features to Tuta. Yet, this is to show there are better alternatives to Big Tech, in regards to AI, the alternative is not perfect, though, you're absolutely right.

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                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                          @thejessiekirk You're right. That's also why we do not add AI features to Tuta. Yet, this is to show there are better alternatives to Big Tech, in regards to AI, the alternative is not perfect, though, you're absolutely right.

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                          #17

                          @Tutanota

                          There is no such thing as ethical AI. There's no right way to do the wrong thing, don't compromise on the pollution of the information sphere and denigration of art and culture and proliferation of consciousness-impersonating political agents

                          #AISlop #GenAI #DeadInternet #Art #Misinformation

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                          • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

                            @Tutanota

                            There is no such thing as ethical AI. There's no right way to do the wrong thing, don't compromise on the pollution of the information sphere and denigration of art and culture and proliferation of consciousness-impersonating political agents

                            #AISlop #GenAI #DeadInternet #Art #Misinformation

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                            #18

                            @ambiguous_yelp @Tutanota

                            local translation ai?

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                            • 65_percenter@ieji.de6 65_percenter@ieji.de

                              @ambiguous_yelp @Tutanota

                              local translation ai?

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                              #19

                              @65_percenter @Tutanota

                              Hallucinations and soulless misinterpretations are reason enough not to trust LLMs to translate messages written by humans

                              #LLM #GenAI #AISlop #Translation

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                              • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

                                @65_percenter @Tutanota

                                Hallucinations and soulless misinterpretations are reason enough not to trust LLMs to translate messages written by humans

                                #LLM #GenAI #AISlop #Translation

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                                #20

                                @ambiguous_yelp @Tutanota

                                you can say the same about cloud ai...

                                also, what do you define as "ai"? pathfinding algorithms for example are classified as a type of ai.

                                edit: i meant cloud translation.

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                                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                  DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

                                  with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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                                  #21

                                  @Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI Could you help to create sort of 2026 challenge to move gradually? It is hard to do this at obce but maybe with community shareing tipps... Why not?

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                                  • 65_percenter@ieji.de6 65_percenter@ieji.de

                                    @ambiguous_yelp @Tutanota

                                    you can say the same about cloud ai...

                                    also, what do you define as "ai"? pathfinding algorithms for example are classified as a type of ai.

                                    edit: i meant cloud translation.

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                                    #22

                                    @65_percenter LLMs or as I've taken to calling them: large lying machines and Image generators and Video generators and Music/Speech generators are what I have problems with

                                    #AISlop #GenAI #LLM

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                                    • I it_sme@mastodon.social

                                      @shadowwwind @Tutanota @notesnook

                                      Screenshots look great. They boast about e2e encryption and privacy.

                                      Was hoping to try before I buy and there is a free plan, but I can't figure out to select it. It feel intentionally unelectable.

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                                      #23

                                      @IT_SME @Tutanota @notesnook they are also one odd the recommended options by PrivacyGuides https://www.privacyguides.org/en/notebooks/

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                                      • I it_sme@mastodon.social

                                        @shadowwwind

                                        You're right.

                                        I think the reminders app is "Tasks: To Do List & Reminders"

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                                        #24

                                        @IT_SME oh yea its this https://mytasksapp.com/ thank your for finding it
                                        Privacy policy is way to vague about encryption ;D
                                        I am happy with Lunatask https://lunatask.app/ which also encrypts all contents

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                                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                          DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

                                          with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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                                          #25
                                          Nyan~ :3
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