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  • kats@chaosfem.twK kats@chaosfem.tw

    @thejessiekirk Some techbro vibe-coded a half-million-LoC execution environment for AI agents in a couple of days, gave as much thought to security as he did to reviewability, and the 100% predictable hilarity is currently ensuing.

    We begin with an API key being included in plaintext in the client-side JS code, move on to... hell, here's one article on the subject: https://www.okta.com/newsroom/articles/agents-run-amok--identity-lessons-from-moltbook-s-ai-experiment/

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    #8

    @thejessiekirk Edited because, as appealing as the execution of half a million AI agents might be, what I actually intended to type was "execution *environment."

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    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

      DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

      with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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      #9

      @Tutanota what is the reminders alternative

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      • shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS shadowwwind@fosstodon.org

        @Tutanota what is the reminders alternative

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        #10

        @shadowwwind @Tutanota

        Just noticed the @s. It looks like it's called NotesNook.

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        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

          @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

          Here are more tips to deGoogle: https://tuta.com/blog/degoogle-list

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          #11

          @Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI I feel liberated now that I've quit Google. It's wild how people just ignore the fact that half their search results are sponsored.

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          • I it_sme@mastodon.social

            @shadowwwind @Tutanota

            Just noticed the @s. It looks like it's called NotesNook.

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            #12

            @IT_SME @Tutanota no that is the notes app with the black and white icon

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            • I it_sme@mastodon.social

              @shadowwwind @Tutanota

              Just noticed the @s. It looks like it's called NotesNook.

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              #13

              @shadowwwind @Tutanota @notesnook

              Screenshots look great. They boast about e2e encryption and privacy.

              Was hoping to try before I buy and there is a free plan, but I can't figure out to select it. It feel intentionally unelectable.

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              • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

                @Tutanota I do wonder if promoting LLMs that have stolen the collective works of artists and, in fact, everyone, and continue to cause massive environmental damage is entirely ethical of you.

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                #14

                @thejessiekirk agree but they're not saying "please use LLMs" either. I think we gotta read the room and admit humans sadly reach for unhealthy things. if we know the kids are smoking shouldn't they at least be told the least toxic brand. mistral I think is the only EU made mode that can run locally on your own computer

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                • shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS shadowwwind@fosstodon.org

                  @IT_SME @Tutanota no that is the notes app with the black and white icon

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                  #15

                  @shadowwwind

                  You're right.

                  I think the reminders app is "Tasks: To Do List & Reminders"

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                  • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

                    @Tutanota I do wonder if promoting LLMs that have stolen the collective works of artists and, in fact, everyone, and continue to cause massive environmental damage is entirely ethical of you.

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                    #16

                    @thejessiekirk You're right. That's also why we do not add AI features to Tuta. Yet, this is to show there are better alternatives to Big Tech, in regards to AI, the alternative is not perfect, though, you're absolutely right.

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                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                      @thejessiekirk You're right. That's also why we do not add AI features to Tuta. Yet, this is to show there are better alternatives to Big Tech, in regards to AI, the alternative is not perfect, though, you're absolutely right.

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                      #17

                      @Tutanota

                      There is no such thing as ethical AI. There's no right way to do the wrong thing, don't compromise on the pollution of the information sphere and denigration of art and culture and proliferation of consciousness-impersonating political agents

                      #AISlop #GenAI #DeadInternet #Art #Misinformation

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                      • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

                        @Tutanota

                        There is no such thing as ethical AI. There's no right way to do the wrong thing, don't compromise on the pollution of the information sphere and denigration of art and culture and proliferation of consciousness-impersonating political agents

                        #AISlop #GenAI #DeadInternet #Art #Misinformation

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                        #18

                        @ambiguous_yelp @Tutanota

                        local translation ai?

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                        • 65_percenter@ieji.de6 65_percenter@ieji.de

                          @ambiguous_yelp @Tutanota

                          local translation ai?

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                          #19

                          @65_percenter @Tutanota

                          Hallucinations and soulless misinterpretations are reason enough not to trust LLMs to translate messages written by humans

                          #LLM #GenAI #AISlop #Translation

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                          • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

                            @65_percenter @Tutanota

                            Hallucinations and soulless misinterpretations are reason enough not to trust LLMs to translate messages written by humans

                            #LLM #GenAI #AISlop #Translation

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                            #20

                            @ambiguous_yelp @Tutanota

                            you can say the same about cloud ai...

                            also, what do you define as "ai"? pathfinding algorithms for example are classified as a type of ai.

                            edit: i meant cloud translation.

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                            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                              DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

                              with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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                              #21

                              @Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI Could you help to create sort of 2026 challenge to move gradually? It is hard to do this at obce but maybe with community shareing tipps... Why not?

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                              • 65_percenter@ieji.de6 65_percenter@ieji.de

                                @ambiguous_yelp @Tutanota

                                you can say the same about cloud ai...

                                also, what do you define as "ai"? pathfinding algorithms for example are classified as a type of ai.

                                edit: i meant cloud translation.

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                                #22

                                @65_percenter LLMs or as I've taken to calling them: large lying machines and Image generators and Video generators and Music/Speech generators are what I have problems with

                                #AISlop #GenAI #LLM

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                                • I it_sme@mastodon.social

                                  @shadowwwind @Tutanota @notesnook

                                  Screenshots look great. They boast about e2e encryption and privacy.

                                  Was hoping to try before I buy and there is a free plan, but I can't figure out to select it. It feel intentionally unelectable.

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                                  #23

                                  @IT_SME @Tutanota @notesnook they are also one odd the recommended options by PrivacyGuides https://www.privacyguides.org/en/notebooks/

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                                  • I it_sme@mastodon.social

                                    @shadowwwind

                                    You're right.

                                    I think the reminders app is "Tasks: To Do List & Reminders"

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                                    #24

                                    @IT_SME oh yea its this https://mytasksapp.com/ thank your for finding it
                                    Privacy policy is way to vague about encryption ;D
                                    I am happy with Lunatask https://lunatask.app/ which also encrypts all contents

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                                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                      DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

                                      with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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                                      #25
                                      Nyan~ :3
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                                      • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                        DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

                                        with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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                                        #26

                                        @Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI
                                        FOSS lover 100%, this is constructive criticism from a guy forced into an evilcorp stack at work: FOSS has nothing that can compete with Google and MS yet. I've tried but they're fragmented, non-integrated.

                                        I process hundreds of emails a day and can do a ton of efficient powerful things from a single interface to manage/edits files, meetings, contacts, tasks and more.

                                        The FOSS alternatives: frankly primitive in comparison. Lets catch up!!

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                                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                          DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

                                          with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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                                          #27

                                          @Tutanota OK, I understand that we need to switch from Big Tech (already done so), but please Can You start focusing more on improving the UI of the Tuta apps on Desktop & Mobile?

                                          Some suggestions: Bring Material You support, more elegant/modern icons, more theming options etc.

                                          Would be greatly appreciated and much more appealing to other people too.

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