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  • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

    @Tutanota I do wonder if promoting LLMs that have stolen the collective works of artists and, in fact, everyone, and continue to cause massive environmental damage is entirely ethical of you.

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    #14

    @thejessiekirk agree but they're not saying "please use LLMs" either. I think we gotta read the room and admit humans sadly reach for unhealthy things. if we know the kids are smoking shouldn't they at least be told the least toxic brand. mistral I think is the only EU made mode that can run locally on your own computer

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    • shadowwwind@fosstodon.orgS shadowwwind@fosstodon.org

      @IT_SME @Tutanota no that is the notes app with the black and white icon

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      #15

      @shadowwwind

      You're right.

      I think the reminders app is "Tasks: To Do List & Reminders"

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      • thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT thejessiekirk@ohai.social

        @Tutanota I do wonder if promoting LLMs that have stolen the collective works of artists and, in fact, everyone, and continue to cause massive environmental damage is entirely ethical of you.

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        #16

        @thejessiekirk You're right. That's also why we do not add AI features to Tuta. Yet, this is to show there are better alternatives to Big Tech, in regards to AI, the alternative is not perfect, though, you're absolutely right.

        ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA thejessiekirk@ohai.socialT edcates@mastodon.socialE 3 Replies Last reply
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        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

          @thejessiekirk You're right. That's also why we do not add AI features to Tuta. Yet, this is to show there are better alternatives to Big Tech, in regards to AI, the alternative is not perfect, though, you're absolutely right.

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          #17

          @Tutanota

          There is no such thing as ethical AI. There's no right way to do the wrong thing, don't compromise on the pollution of the information sphere and denigration of art and culture and proliferation of consciousness-impersonating political agents

          #AISlop #GenAI #DeadInternet #Art #Misinformation

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          • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

            @Tutanota

            There is no such thing as ethical AI. There's no right way to do the wrong thing, don't compromise on the pollution of the information sphere and denigration of art and culture and proliferation of consciousness-impersonating political agents

            #AISlop #GenAI #DeadInternet #Art #Misinformation

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            #18

            @ambiguous_yelp @Tutanota

            local translation ai?

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            • 65_percenter@ieji.de6 65_percenter@ieji.de

              @ambiguous_yelp @Tutanota

              local translation ai?

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              #19

              @65_percenter @Tutanota

              Hallucinations and soulless misinterpretations are reason enough not to trust LLMs to translate messages written by humans

              #LLM #GenAI #AISlop #Translation

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              • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

                @65_percenter @Tutanota

                Hallucinations and soulless misinterpretations are reason enough not to trust LLMs to translate messages written by humans

                #LLM #GenAI #AISlop #Translation

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                #20

                @ambiguous_yelp @Tutanota

                you can say the same about cloud ai...

                also, what do you define as "ai"? pathfinding algorithms for example are classified as a type of ai.

                edit: i meant cloud translation.

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                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                  DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

                  with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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                  #21

                  @Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI Could you help to create sort of 2026 challenge to move gradually? It is hard to do this at obce but maybe with community shareing tipps... Why not?

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                  • 65_percenter@ieji.de6 65_percenter@ieji.de

                    @ambiguous_yelp @Tutanota

                    you can say the same about cloud ai...

                    also, what do you define as "ai"? pathfinding algorithms for example are classified as a type of ai.

                    edit: i meant cloud translation.

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                    #22

                    @65_percenter LLMs or as I've taken to calling them: large lying machines and Image generators and Video generators and Music/Speech generators are what I have problems with

                    #AISlop #GenAI #LLM

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                    • I it_sme@mastodon.social

                      @shadowwwind @Tutanota @notesnook

                      Screenshots look great. They boast about e2e encryption and privacy.

                      Was hoping to try before I buy and there is a free plan, but I can't figure out to select it. It feel intentionally unelectable.

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                      #23

                      @IT_SME @Tutanota @notesnook they are also one odd the recommended options by PrivacyGuides https://www.privacyguides.org/en/notebooks/

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                      • I it_sme@mastodon.social

                        @shadowwwind

                        You're right.

                        I think the reminders app is "Tasks: To Do List & Reminders"

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                        #24

                        @IT_SME oh yea its this https://mytasksapp.com/ thank your for finding it
                        Privacy policy is way to vague about encryption ;D
                        I am happy with Lunatask https://lunatask.app/ which also encrypts all contents

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                        • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                          DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

                          with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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                          #25
                          Nyan~ :3
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                          • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                            DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

                            with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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                            #26

                            @Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI
                            FOSS lover 100%, this is constructive criticism from a guy forced into an evilcorp stack at work: FOSS has nothing that can compete with Google and MS yet. I've tried but they're fragmented, non-integrated.

                            I process hundreds of emails a day and can do a ton of efficient powerful things from a single interface to manage/edits files, meetings, contacts, tasks and more.

                            The FOSS alternatives: frankly primitive in comparison. Lets catch up!!

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                            • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                              DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

                              with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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                              #27

                              @Tutanota OK, I understand that we need to switch from Big Tech (already done so), but please Can You start focusing more on improving the UI of the Tuta apps on Desktop & Mobile?

                              Some suggestions: Bring Material You support, more elegant/modern icons, more theming options etc.

                              Would be greatly appreciated and much more appealing to other people too.

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                              • ambiguous_yelp@veganism.socialA ambiguous_yelp@veganism.social

                                @65_percenter LLMs or as I've taken to calling them: large lying machines and Image generators and Video generators and Music/Speech generators are what I have problems with

                                #AISlop #GenAI #LLM

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                                #28

                                @ambiguous_yelp

                                okay but you didn't answer the cloud translation point.

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                                • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                  DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

                                  with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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                                  #29

                                  @Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI
                                  Now we just need a EU smartphoneOS to get rid of big techs hold on the users.
                                  SailfishOS ?

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                                  • minimal_aesthetique@mastodon.socialM minimal_aesthetique@mastodon.social

                                    @Tutanota OK, I understand that we need to switch from Big Tech (already done so), but please Can You start focusing more on improving the UI of the Tuta apps on Desktop & Mobile?

                                    Some suggestions: Bring Material You support, more elegant/modern icons, more theming options etc.

                                    Would be greatly appreciated and much more appealing to other people too.

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                                    #30

                                    @minimal_aesthetique Noted, will pass it on.

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                                    • tutanota@mastodon.socialT tutanota@mastodon.social

                                      DeApple, DeMicrosoft, DeGoogle, ... DIVERSIFY

                                      with @nextcloud @Tutanota @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI

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                                      #31

                                      @Tutanota can you help me understand if @CryptPad is able to replace Office for personal apps? Like instead of Word.app locally? I’m trying to understand the use case vs LibreOffice?

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                                      • pomagarnet@chaos.socialP pomagarnet@chaos.social

                                        @thejessiekirk agree but they're not saying "please use LLMs" either. I think we gotta read the room and admit humans sadly reach for unhealthy things. if we know the kids are smoking shouldn't they at least be told the least toxic brand. mistral I think is the only EU made mode that can run locally on your own computer

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                                        #32

                                        @pomagarnet I'm sorry, but I remain unconvinced by your argument.

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                                        • trimtab@mastodon.socialT trimtab@mastodon.social

                                          @Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI
                                          FOSS lover 100%, this is constructive criticism from a guy forced into an evilcorp stack at work: FOSS has nothing that can compete with Google and MS yet. I've tried but they're fragmented, non-integrated.

                                          I process hundreds of emails a day and can do a ton of efficient powerful things from a single interface to manage/edits files, meetings, contacts, tasks and more.

                                          The FOSS alternatives: frankly primitive in comparison. Lets catch up!!

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                                          #33

                                          @TrimTab fragmented alternatives are the reason many people keep choosing centralized Big Tech platforms.

                                          But we have an answer:
                                          https://nextcloud.com/platform/

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