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@thejessiekirk You're right. That's also why we do not add AI features to Tuta. Yet, this is to show there are better alternatives to Big Tech, in regards to AI, the alternative is not perfect, though, you're absolutely right.
There is no such thing as ethical AI. There's no right way to do the wrong thing, don't compromise on the pollution of the information sphere and denigration of art and culture and proliferation of consciousness-impersonating political agents
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There is no such thing as ethical AI. There's no right way to do the wrong thing, don't compromise on the pollution of the information sphere and denigration of art and culture and proliferation of consciousness-impersonating political agents
local translation ai?
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local translation ai?
Hallucinations and soulless misinterpretations are reason enough not to trust LLMs to translate messages written by humans
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Hallucinations and soulless misinterpretations are reason enough not to trust LLMs to translate messages written by humans
you can say the same about cloud ai...
also, what do you define as "ai"? pathfinding algorithms for example are classified as a type of ai.
edit: i meant cloud translation.
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@Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI Could you help to create sort of 2026 challenge to move gradually? It is hard to do this at obce but maybe with community shareing tipps... Why not?
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you can say the same about cloud ai...
also, what do you define as "ai"? pathfinding algorithms for example are classified as a type of ai.
edit: i meant cloud translation.
@65_percenter LLMs or as I've taken to calling them: large lying machines and Image generators and Video generators and Music/Speech generators are what I have problems with
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@shadowwwind @Tutanota @notesnook
Screenshots look great. They boast about e2e encryption and privacy.
Was hoping to try before I buy and there is a free plan, but I can't figure out to select it. It feel intentionally unelectable.
@IT_SME @Tutanota @notesnook they are also one odd the recommended options by PrivacyGuides https://www.privacyguides.org/en/notebooks/
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@IT_SME oh yea its this https://mytasksapp.com/ thank your for finding it
Privacy policy is way to vague about encryption ;D
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@Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI
FOSS lover 100%, this is constructive criticism from a guy forced into an evilcorp stack at work: FOSS has nothing that can compete with Google and MS yet. I've tried but they're fragmented, non-integrated.I process hundreds of emails a day and can do a ton of efficient powerful things from a single interface to manage/edits files, meetings, contacts, tasks and more.
The FOSS alternatives: frankly primitive in comparison. Lets catch up!!
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@Tutanota OK, I understand that we need to switch from Big Tech (already done so), but please Can You start focusing more on improving the UI of the Tuta apps on Desktop & Mobile?
Some suggestions: Bring Material You support, more elegant/modern icons, more theming options etc.
Would be greatly appreciated and much more appealing to other people too.
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@65_percenter LLMs or as I've taken to calling them: large lying machines and Image generators and Video generators and Music/Speech generators are what I have problems with
okay but you didn't answer the cloud translation point.
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@Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI
Now we just need a EU smartphoneOS to get rid of big techs hold on the users.
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@Tutanota OK, I understand that we need to switch from Big Tech (already done so), but please Can You start focusing more on improving the UI of the Tuta apps on Desktop & Mobile?
Some suggestions: Bring Material You support, more elegant/modern icons, more theming options etc.
Would be greatly appreciated and much more appealing to other people too.
@minimal_aesthetique Noted, will pass it on.
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@thejessiekirk agree but they're not saying "please use LLMs" either. I think we gotta read the room and admit humans sadly reach for unhealthy things. if we know the kids are smoking shouldn't they at least be told the least toxic brand. mistral I think is the only EU made mode that can run locally on your own computer
@pomagarnet I'm sorry, but I remain unconvinced by your argument.
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@Tutanota @nextcloud @notesnook @CryptPad @MistralAI
FOSS lover 100%, this is constructive criticism from a guy forced into an evilcorp stack at work: FOSS has nothing that can compete with Google and MS yet. I've tried but they're fragmented, non-integrated.I process hundreds of emails a day and can do a ton of efficient powerful things from a single interface to manage/edits files, meetings, contacts, tasks and more.
The FOSS alternatives: frankly primitive in comparison. Lets catch up!!
@TrimTab fragmented alternatives are the reason many people keep choosing centralized Big Tech platforms.
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@thejessiekirk You're right. That's also why we do not add AI features to Tuta. Yet, this is to show there are better alternatives to Big Tech, in regards to AI, the alternative is not perfect, though, you're absolutely right.
@Tutanota I'm quite certain I'm talking to someone that is intellectual, thoughtful and ethical, and I suspect the pragmatic recommendation of an LLM makes you just as uncomfortable as me. I merely ask you to reconsider as an organisation as to whether you should continue to do that.
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@thejessiekirk You're right. That's also why we do not add AI features to Tuta. Yet, this is to show there are better alternatives to Big Tech, in regards to AI, the alternative is not perfect, though, you're absolutely right.
@Tutanota @thejessiekirk The correct alternative to AI as it currently stands would be either a blank space or a "NO" sign in the lower right spot.
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