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  • romeu@mastodon.socialR romeu@mastodon.social

    People are using « tokens used » as productivity metric ?! « Tokens used »?!?!? That’s like, the first time « lines of code created » gets beaten for the « worst metric of software engineering » 🫠

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    #10

    @romeu Checkmates Goodhart's law by being a terrible metric even when not measured.

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    • romeu@mastodon.socialR romeu@mastodon.social

      People are using « tokens used » as productivity metric ?! « Tokens used »?!?!? That’s like, the first time « lines of code created » gets beaten for the « worst metric of software engineering » 🫠

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      #11

      @romeu It's probably the best possible metric for how hard you're cargo culting though, so it depends on your aims.

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      • romeu@mastodon.socialR romeu@mastodon.social

        People are using « tokens used » as productivity metric ?! « Tokens used »?!?!? That’s like, the first time « lines of code created » gets beaten for the « worst metric of software engineering » 🫠

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        #12

        @romeu
        I read a story somewhere of a developer setting up a token burning script that builds badly designed cities in Sim City...

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        • jadam_fr@hachyderm.ioJ jadam_fr@hachyderm.io

          @romeu
          I read a story somewhere of a developer setting up a token burning script that builds badly designed cities in Sim City...

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          #13

          @jadam_fr @romeu
          Hence, we need to be specific: token used to generate code is a BS metric, where BS stands for beyond satanic.

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          • jkb@gotosocial.jkbockstael.beJ jkb@gotosocial.jkbockstael.be

            @romeu I burned a lot of fuel, therefore I am very efficient.

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            #14

            @jkb @romeu "statements dreamed up by the utterly deranged"

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            • romeu@mastodon.socialR romeu@mastodon.social

              People are using « tokens used » as productivity metric ?! « Tokens used »?!?!? That’s like, the first time « lines of code created » gets beaten for the « worst metric of software engineering » 🫠

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              #15

              @romeu number of left clicks

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              • romeu@mastodon.socialR romeu@mastodon.social

                People are using « tokens used » as productivity metric ?! « Tokens used »?!?!? That’s like, the first time « lines of code created » gets beaten for the « worst metric of software engineering » 🫠

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                #16

                @romeu
                It's like Dotcom eras "Cash burn rate", but this time it's AI data centers burning the planet.

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                • romeu@mastodon.socialR romeu@mastodon.social

                  People are using « tokens used » as productivity metric ?! « Tokens used »?!?!? That’s like, the first time « lines of code created » gets beaten for the « worst metric of software engineering » 🫠

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                  #17

                  @romeu Someome came to me the other day asking why my token count was so low. I didn't realize that was a productivity metric. WTF.

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                  • romeu@mastodon.socialR romeu@mastodon.social

                    People are using « tokens used » as productivity metric ?! « Tokens used »?!?!? That’s like, the first time « lines of code created » gets beaten for the « worst metric of software engineering » 🫠

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                    #18

                    @romeu Could be "air breathed".
                    Code lines are least an outcome, but tokens are a resource you spent to create outcome.
                    Like breathing, typing, Watts used by your computer, etc.

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                    • jeantranscene@mastodon.socialJ jeantranscene@mastodon.social

                      @romeu Someome came to me the other day asking why my token count was so low. I didn't realize that was a productivity metric. WTF.

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                      #19

                      @jeantranscene @romeu

                      It's like measuring car performance by gallons per mile instead of miles per gallon.

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                      • romeu@mastodon.socialR romeu@mastodon.social

                        People are using « tokens used » as productivity metric ?! « Tokens used »?!?!? That’s like, the first time « lines of code created » gets beaten for the « worst metric of software engineering » 🫠

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                        #20

                        @romeu I do remember when at work they were using the "committed lines of code" metric. One week I managed to do a SINGLE line change. Fixing a bug which haunted us for months. As they finally acknowledged, the main issue was not the change but knowing exactly where it was needed. The metric had been since buried

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                        • romeu@mastodon.socialR romeu@mastodon.social

                          People are using « tokens used » as productivity metric ?! « Tokens used »?!?!? That’s like, the first time « lines of code created » gets beaten for the « worst metric of software engineering » 🫠

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                          #21

                          @romeu Hmm. What about kLOC/token? 🤔

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                          • romeu@mastodon.socialR romeu@mastodon.social

                            People are using « tokens used » as productivity metric ?! « Tokens used »?!?!? That’s like, the first time « lines of code created » gets beaten for the « worst metric of software engineering » 🫠

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                            #22

                            @romeu I for one measure my car's quality by how much fuel it burns

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                            • lenotaire@mastodon.socialL lenotaire@mastodon.social

                              @romeu I do remember when at work they were using the "committed lines of code" metric. One week I managed to do a SINGLE line change. Fixing a bug which haunted us for months. As they finally acknowledged, the main issue was not the change but knowing exactly where it was needed. The metric had been since buried

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                              #23

                              @lenotaire @romeu $9995 for knowing where to tap.

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