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  3. There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

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  • raphaelmorgan@disabled.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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    #55

    @Robinzz3 @futurebird "It has no private agenda, no hunger for status, money, sex, power or approval." that's all pretty true! However, it is built by corporations and funded by investors, all of whom have agendas and they're all bad
    The only exceptions I can think of to "LLMs are completely controlled by technofascist oligarchs" are DeepSeek and that one Meta accidentally leaked and then made open source (which was still built by a corporation, one notorious for blatant human rights violations)

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    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

      There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

      Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

      The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

      totallynotalurker@app.wafrn.netT This user is from outside of this forum
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      #56

      @futurebird@sauropods.win

      Basically this picture.

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      • desatyr@mastodon.socialD desatyr@mastodon.social

        @veronica @Phosphenes @rgulick @futurebird

        My Gen Z kids told me, that Gen X/Boomer and older are more likely to do not recognize AI generated slop.

        I am doing art and photography, so I get a strange feeling, when I see AI generated Images.

        A same aged friend of mine is totally in AI and loves his "creations" 😵‍💫

        Worst are AI Voiceovers. They raise that uncanny feeling in me. brrrrrr 😬

        atleagle@mastodon.onlineA This user is from outside of this forum
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        #57

        @desatyr @veronica @Phosphenes @rgulick @futurebird my 15 year old calls out AI images and videos instantly, even in thibgs that are really well done. I will ask her what she sees, and it will take her some time to point out the things that gave her the feel. When I look at her points, she is invariably correct.

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          #58

          @bob @Peace @futurebird Ok! I get your point!! "Smart bulbs", yuck. Even when they were WiFi enabled light bulbs, but, golly, do we get AI enabled bulbs now? Surely not! Say it is not true.

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          • worik@mastodon.socialW worik@mastodon.social

            @bob @Peace @futurebird Ok! I get your point!! "Smart bulbs", yuck. Even when they were WiFi enabled light bulbs, but, golly, do we get AI enabled bulbs now? Surely not! Say it is not true.

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            #59

            @bob @Peace @futurebird

            I have a IoT system in my house. It has no AI in it, but I built it with AI. It was my first experiment in "Vibe Coding". I was using Home Assistant - but it illustrates everything wrong (IMO) with a lot of modern Free Software. It is bloated, slow and uses resources like no body pays. My Raspberry Pi 4 was crashing because it overheated running Home Assistant OS.

            Methinks AI features have landed, or are due to land, in HA. Mēh! Good lucjk to them!

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            • worik@mastodon.socialW worik@mastodon.social

              @bob @Peace @futurebird

              I have a IoT system in my house. It has no AI in it, but I built it with AI. It was my first experiment in "Vibe Coding". I was using Home Assistant - but it illustrates everything wrong (IMO) with a lot of modern Free Software. It is bloated, slow and uses resources like no body pays. My Raspberry Pi 4 was crashing because it overheated running Home Assistant OS.

              Methinks AI features have landed, or are due to land, in HA. Mēh! Good lucjk to them!

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              #60

              @bob @Peace @futurebird

              BTW my vibe-coded IoT experiment: https://codeberg.org/worik/castle-iot

              Only Tapu switches for now, all I need.

              But a lovely touch screen interface - no X-windows straight SDL on the console.

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              • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

                Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

                The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

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                #61

                @futurebird

                "Lower Artificial Intelligence Literacy Predicts Greater AI Receptivity" https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/00222429251314491

                (Full article is sadly paywalled but the abstract summarises. The final two sentences may make you want to scream into the abyss for a while.)

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                • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                  There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

                  Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

                  The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

                  akki@toot.lgbtA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #62

                  @futurebird ... I am totally writing this out as a quotation to put on my wall. In my crappy calligraphy. Because this sums it all up beautifully. Thank you.

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                  • atleagle@mastodon.onlineA atleagle@mastodon.online

                    @desatyr @veronica @Phosphenes @rgulick @futurebird my 15 year old calls out AI images and videos instantly, even in thibgs that are really well done. I will ask her what she sees, and it will take her some time to point out the things that gave her the feel. When I look at her points, she is invariably correct.

                    desatyr@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #63

                    @ATLeagle @veronica @Phosphenes @rgulick @futurebird

                    In difficult cases I use my kids senses too. 😄

                    Sometime they can not tell why, but most times they can point wmout what is wrong.

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                    • futurebird@sauropods.winF futurebird@sauropods.win

                      There is an attempt to make people feel like being critical of using LLMs is not "hip and with it" Only old people who don't understand technology are unimpressed.

                      Nothing could be further from the truth. Young people don't like the slop, the most tech people have the harshest words.

                      The typical AI fan doesn't know how it works or the limitations: this blind spot makes them both dazzled and fearful ... therefore unable to assign blame to humans when they do crime in a computer suit.

                      samanthajanesmith@lgbtqia.spaceS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #64

                      @futurebird I am old, baby boomer gen and everytime I read these threads I get the feeling that us old withered specimens get the blame for AI because we don't always spot it. I can barely spot my wife without my sodding glasses.

                      Many may not understand it but its not our fucking fault that it's taken over. It's middle aged tech bros mostly and the younger people who actually work on LLMs.

                      End of rant... Apologies, I am going back to eating my liquidised food while sitting in the rocking chair and shouting at the neighbours kids. Feel free to ignore me.

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                      • worik@mastodon.socialW worik@mastodon.social

                        @stephan324ppm @futurebird Cory Doctorow is a user

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                        #65

                        @worik @futurebird using what?

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