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Does anyone have a handy quick reference article clearly stating that most people hate AI generated images, it's not just me?

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  • brad@1040ste.netB brad@1040ste.net

    @afewbugs Does anyone remember their parents and other elders being delighted by clip-art in the late 80s/early 90s, and adding it to everything despite it making things look like shite?

    Feels like the same kind of thing happening here, it's the new cheap and shitty clip art being produced at a high cost that simply isn't being passed on as a charge, it's being saved up and levied on future generations in environmental and social degradation.

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    @brad @afewbugs

    Ah, clip-art, the memories. Also remember when every spreadsheet was a riot of colors and different fonts. We have come so far.

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    • zool@icosahedron.websiteZ zool@icosahedron.website

      @afewbugs not a citation but a positive example of sentiment, seen in a shop window in a small town in the far North of Scotland.

      If nothing else, convince them that in a world of samey, bland generated posters and flyers, something obviously human-made will really help their event stand out!

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      @zool @afewbugs my country has made me proud once again

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      • timsk@mastodon.socialT timsk@mastodon.social

        @afewbugs you could ask them to fill this in before they start

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        @timsk @afewbugs they don't have to fill it in, you are already using GenAI as it is becoming part of all kind of applications we regularly use

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        • timsk@mastodon.socialT timsk@mastodon.social

          @afewbugs you could ask them to fill this in before they start

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          #23

          @timsk @afewbugs many aspects are not GenAI specific I am afraid (think about, cloud, social media etc)

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          • rohini@mastodon.socialR rohini@mastodon.social

            @afewbugs LLMs like ChatGPT now embed metadata that marks the image as AI-generated. So machines and humans who can read the metadata will know for sure. Those who run automated filters to remove these images will not see them at all.

            Also, plenty of free and inexpensive alternatives to LLMs such as licensed images, stock photos, free templates on Canva, and PhotoPea photo editor. I really hope you are able to convince them!

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            @rohini@mastodon.social @afewbugs@social.coop I feel like the chance of this metadata surviving all the way from ChatGPT prompt to viewer is basically zero, even if there is no intent to obscure AI usage. The moment that AI image lands in an instant messenger (popular way to transfer files across devices!) all metadata is gone. Posted on social media? Metadata stripped, especially for thumbnails. Right click -> Copy Image? Reconstructed anew from raw pixel data, no metadata to be seen. Also it’s a PNG now and at least twice as large in file size. I’m not even getting into screenshots.

            Really unless the AI user goes out of their way to carefully preserve the exact file data this metadata is just gone. A non-techy user isn’t even going to know that “image metadata” is a thing to care about.

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            • kimapr@ublog.kimapr.netK kimapr@ublog.kimapr.net

              @rohini@mastodon.social @afewbugs@social.coop I feel like the chance of this metadata surviving all the way from ChatGPT prompt to viewer is basically zero, even if there is no intent to obscure AI usage. The moment that AI image lands in an instant messenger (popular way to transfer files across devices!) all metadata is gone. Posted on social media? Metadata stripped, especially for thumbnails. Right click -> Copy Image? Reconstructed anew from raw pixel data, no metadata to be seen. Also it’s a PNG now and at least twice as large in file size. I’m not even getting into screenshots.

              Really unless the AI user goes out of their way to carefully preserve the exact file data this metadata is just gone. A non-techy user isn’t even going to know that “image metadata” is a thing to care about.

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              @kimapr @afewbugs LinkedIn now marks AI-generated images on the pages of this metadata. If you hover or click on the mark, a blurb opens which explains how the image was identified. https://www.linkedin.com/help/linkedin/answer/a6282984

              I see the mark and skip the post together because I hate to see AI generated images in anything I read.

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              • rohini@mastodon.socialR rohini@mastodon.social

                @kimapr @afewbugs LinkedIn now marks AI-generated images on the pages of this metadata. If you hover or click on the mark, a blurb opens which explains how the image was identified. https://www.linkedin.com/help/linkedin/answer/a6282984

                I see the mark and skip the post together because I hate to see AI generated images in anything I read.

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                @kimapr @afewbugs I agree that plenty of actions could strip metadata and that the metadata argument does not work in 100% scenarios.

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                • afewbugs@social.coopA afewbugs@social.coop

                  Does anyone have a handy quick reference article clearly stating that most people hate AI generated images, it's not just me? I need something I could use to convince a local community group I'm involved in not to go down the AI generated graphics route. The people involved are perhaps slightly older, discovering the ability to make flyers with any image they want on and think it's great, I need to be able to say it's not just me being a perfectionist, this is going to alienate more people than it attracts. TIA.

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                  #27

                  @afewbugs
                  "You have only selected this tool because you haven't spent the time to develop skill/taste in this area. Other people can tell and it turns them off. You're wearing an off the shelf prom dress to the met gala"

                  and if that metaphor doesn't land you've got real problems, idk, you can ask them how they would feel if the grocery store or an orchestra played dubstep?

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                  • erikjonker@mastodon.socialE erikjonker@mastodon.social

                    @timsk @afewbugs they don't have to fill it in, you are already using GenAI as it is becoming part of all kind of applications we regularly use

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                    @ErikJonker
                    Being forced to use something doesn't make it good or mean that people want it.

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                    • timsk@mastodon.socialT timsk@mastodon.social

                      @afewbugs you could ask them to fill this in before they start

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                      #29

                      @timsk @afewbugs needs a checkbox that reads: I accept the risk of being charged with crimes against humanity for using, promoting, and profiting from AI and causing all this harm knowingly

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                      • krnlg@mastodon.socialK krnlg@mastodon.social

                        @ErikJonker
                        Being forced to use something doesn't make it good or mean that people want it.

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                        @krnlg I agree !

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                        • kimlockhartga@beige.partyK kimlockhartga@beige.party

                          @zool @afewbugs def gets your attention more than some slick version.

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                          @kimlockhartga @zool @afewbugs Absolutely! And isn’t that the whole goal of advertising?

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