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  3. Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

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  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

    Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

    Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

    tehstu@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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    #91

    @briankrebs I'm not usually on Windows, but looking at my /Downloads I must have fetched and used it back in July, so I have this build.

    I grabbed Malwarebytes (for want of something to do) and ran it before (clean) and with Rufus running (clean).

    One thing I did note - I genuinely don't recall it fetching any additional files until you select an ISO, it reads it, and determines if it needs extra files which is mentioned on the page linked below.

    https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/wiki/Security

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    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

      Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

      Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

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      #92

      @briankrebs I think I'll stick with dd.

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      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

        @StephenBoylett no, I didn't know that. If you can supply a link that would be helpful, thanks.

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        stephenboylett@techhub.social
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        #93

        @briankrebs I think I got the original Chris Wu version that has been deleted, but this looks to be an updated fork of that.

        https://github.com/TheDotSource/New-ISOFile

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        • jordinki@infosec.exchangeJ jordinki@infosec.exchange

          @briankrebs WHO ORDERED THE LARGE DEEPDISH SANDBOX ANALYSIS??

          https://app.any.run/tasks/90d1d270-a93f-498f-81d7-84d5e8f156bf

          tehstu@hachyderm.ioT This user is from outside of this forum
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          #94

          @jordinki @briankrebs they're pretty up front about Rufus fetching those files from the Microsoft Github. We're saying they're malware?

          https://github.com/pbatard/rufus/issues/3039

          (there's a GH issue because Microsoft moved them, causing 404 in the downloads. I assume they reverted the change because there was no new Rufus build)

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          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

            Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

            Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

            aphantastic@social.vivaldi.netA This user is from outside of this forum
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            aphantastic@social.vivaldi.net
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            #95

            @briankrebs

            I've never been able to get Rufus to work. Instead, I've been an avid user of Universal USB Installer for decades: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_USB_Installer

            For years now it has Ventoy, so it's even better than it was originally.

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            • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

              Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

              Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

              fritzadalis@infosec.exchangeF This user is from outside of this forum
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              fritzadalis@infosec.exchange
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              #96

              @briankrebs
              I didn't run it, but I downloaded the x64 installer and portable from rufus.ie and it's signed and the sha256 matches the download page. It looks like the 'extras' download checks a hardcoded checksum database too. Do you still have the version you downloaded? Maybe check the sha256, or if you're tired of it consider sending to steveshockley.99 on signal.

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              • dey@mastodon.socialD dey@mastodon.social

                @briankrebs Ventoy is the new Rufus BTW.

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                #97

                @dey @briankrebs Some distros recommend not using Ventoy because it does non-standard things and requires some hacks to work the way it does. Sometimes it breaks expectations and causes issues.

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                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                  Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

                  Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

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                  mcourcel@allovertheplace.ca
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                  #98

                  @briankrebs Weird. I just downloaded the latest portable yesterday and it was fine.

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                  • jordinki@infosec.exchangeJ jordinki@infosec.exchange

                    @briankrebs WHO ORDERED THE LARGE DEEPDISH SANDBOX ANALYSIS??

                    https://app.any.run/tasks/90d1d270-a93f-498f-81d7-84d5e8f156bf

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                    #99

                    @jordinki @briankrebs Note: Free accounts automatically make your analysis public,🤔 so never upload files containing personal data, passwords, or private company info.👍🏼 #Privacy

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                    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                      I love all the commentary about how I'm supposedly inventing things here. Supply chain hacks or just selling one's site/brand happens. If you don't like the results too bad. Check them yourself.

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                      #100

                      I have used Rufus many times in the past @briankrebs and never had an issue, but clearly if you are seeing these additional installs something has compromised it.
                      I usually grab the portable version and the last one I downloaded was 4.14 back in May, which worked as expected and still does.
                      So it would seem that 4.15 is not to be trusted.

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                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                        Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

                        Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

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                        johnny_johnson@mastodon.social
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                        #101

                        @briankrebs I've never liked the name of this program; it sounds like it refers to a specific country. Please use only Fedora Media Writer.

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                        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                          Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

                          Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

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                          invertedlina@infosec.exchange
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                          #102

                          @briankrebs When you say you "installed" rufus, did it prompt you for some kind of installation? Or did the startup match what was in the any.run analysis that was submitted? I ask because rufus doesn't really have an install, you just run it and go. Trying to forensically put this back together is going to require a bit more info if you can provide it. I don't suppose, since you are wiping that computer, that you saved anything at all from it?

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                          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                            I love all the commentary about how I'm supposedly inventing things here. Supply chain hacks or just selling one's site/brand happens. If you don't like the results too bad. Check them yourself.

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                            briankrebs@infosec.exchange
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                            #103

                            I didn't realize how strong a community Rufus has. Please don't shoot the messenger.

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                            • invertedlina@infosec.exchangeI invertedlina@infosec.exchange

                              @briankrebs When you say you "installed" rufus, did it prompt you for some kind of installation? Or did the startup match what was in the any.run analysis that was submitted? I ask because rufus doesn't really have an install, you just run it and go. Trying to forensically put this back together is going to require a bit more info if you can provide it. I don't suppose, since you are wiping that computer, that you saved anything at all from it?

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                              briankrebs@infosec.exchange
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                              #104

                              @InvertedLina all nuked

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                              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                I didn't realize how strong a community Rufus has. Please don't shoot the messenger.

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                                cienmilojos@infosec.exchange
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                                #105

                                @briankrebs you where right to report, fuck them haters.

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                                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                  I didn't realize how strong a community Rufus has. Please don't shoot the messenger.

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                                  #106

                                  @briankrebs Better to know then not to know…

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                                    nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.social
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                                    #107

                                    @bms @briankrebs Correct, it can be run portable without installation with zero problems. There is no benefit to installing it beyond that it makes a convenient icon in the start menu for people who don't know how to do that themselves (though I suspect the Venn diagram of those who know how to use Rufus' USB creator and those who can't create a shortcut is... not very overlapping...)

                                    I'm definitely getting vibes that the site has been taken over and the uploads modified.

                                    Actually, to the OP, did you check versus the github's uploads to see if they also have the trojans? I saw someone mentioning the github, but I didn't see whether you tried it or not.

                                    Though I still agree with those who say Ventoy is better these days. (Also Ventoy has other OS builds too.)

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                                    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                      I didn't realize how strong a community Rufus has. Please don't shoot the messenger.

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                                      rpmik@avgeek.social
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                                      #108

                                      @briankrebs sounds like the five stages of grief

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                                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                        @InvertedLina all nuked

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                                        invertedlina@infosec.exchange
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                                        #109

                                        @briankrebs Thanks. I'm running Rufus 4.15.2396, pulled from Github via the link on the rufus dot ie page. Writing a Win11 x64 ISO out to USB in a VM. It failed the USB write, but my USB drive might also be flakey.

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                                        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                          Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

                                          Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

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                                          janggolan@mastodon.social
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                                          #110

                                          @briankrebs haven't used rufus or cd installs in awhile so thanks for the warning!

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