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  3. Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

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  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

    Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

    Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

    orca@nya.oneO This user is from outside of this forum
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    #61
    @briankrebs@infosec.exchange That site might have been taken over or something. Rufus was a "download and run" program that doesn't require installation.
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    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

      Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

      Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

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      da_kink@defcon.social
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      #62

      @briankrebs huh, that's a shame. My normal workflow is that it might ask for a dd download but not much else. The secure boot is usually because of the need to allow third party certificates in the bios settings.

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      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

        Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

        Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

        ichinin@infosec.exchangeI This user is from outside of this forum
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        #63

        @briankrebs ventoy is better. Boot the iso you want from a menu.

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        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

          Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

          Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

          galaxis@mastodon.infra.deG This user is from outside of this forum
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          #64

          @briankrebs Yeah wait, forget what I wrote in this post before. Realtime protection being disabled seems to be standard behaviour at least for for the W10 version of Windows Sandbox? There's just no AV providers installed...
          Somehow never noticed when using that thing before 🤦‍♂️
          Sorry for the noise.

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          • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

            Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

            Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

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            #65

            @briankrebs it's always nice to have measurements of that sort of thing to point people at. thanks.

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            • galaxis@mastodon.infra.deG galaxis@mastodon.infra.de

              @briankrebs Yeah wait, forget what I wrote in this post before. Realtime protection being disabled seems to be standard behaviour at least for for the W10 version of Windows Sandbox? There's just no AV providers installed...
              Somehow never noticed when using that thing before 🤦‍♂️
              Sorry for the noise.

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              #66

              @galaxis yes if you trust WindowsDefender to defend you against this attack you will be sorely mistaken. It successfully detects all the malware installed, but it acts weird and sends notifications about malware detections even though its own interface says a scan is clean.

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              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                A kind reader submitted the Rufus installer to any.run, a sandbox which walks through the installation of software to find malware that gets installed only *AFTER* the executable is clicked. You can see exactly all of the post-install prompts to download additional software that I also saw.

                https://infosec.exchange/@jordinki/117492425049116266

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                #67

                @briankrebs
                Related:
                https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/windows-security/update-secure-boot-certificates

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                • demon6@metalhead.clubD demon6@metalhead.club

                  @briankrebs
                  Related:
                  https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/windows-security/update-secure-boot-certificates

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                  #68

                  @demon6 wait, what? how is this related? I'm sincerely asking because IDK.

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                  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                    Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

                    Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

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                    #69

                    @briankrebs I tried Rufus but computer said no and I am glad

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                    • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                      @demon6 wait, what? how is this related? I'm sincerely asking because IDK.

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                      #70

                      @briankrebs Rufus can insert the updated uefi certs into windows ISO’s. It’s possible that those certs could be compromised, but that’s the additional downloads you’re seeing from what I saw in the video from @jordinki

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                      • darfplatypus@infosec.exchangeD darfplatypus@infosec.exchange

                        @jordinki @briankrebs requiring a removable drive would be a hilariously perfect anti-sandbox method for this.

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                        #71

                        @briankrebs @jordinki @darfplatypus it'd be annoying to fully fake too because sandboxes tend to be kind of painful to add these things to yourself

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                        • jab01701mid@mastodon.socialJ jab01701mid@mastodon.social

                          @briankrebs So I hate to be snarky, but "dd" has been there all along people. Having to install an entire 3rd party application, for something that the OS should have stable, reliable methods for, to format a storage device and transfer a standard filesystem image to it, is intolerable. But it's Windows...depends on curl to download its own updates...

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                          #72

                          @jab01701mid @briankrebs ironically the official windows installer builder does support writing to USB directly but it doesn't have the customisation that Rufus offers for slipstreaming and deshittifying. But for other non-Windows ISOs? Yeah.

                          Though it should be noted that for awhile now a lot of images are designed such that if you mount them and copy their contents to the USB partition bare it'll work just fine and this can be done from stock Windows

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                          • lunaphied@provably.onlineL lunaphied@provably.online

                            @jab01701mid @briankrebs ironically the official windows installer builder does support writing to USB directly but it doesn't have the customisation that Rufus offers for slipstreaming and deshittifying. But for other non-Windows ISOs? Yeah.

                            Though it should be noted that for awhile now a lot of images are designed such that if you mount them and copy their contents to the USB partition bare it'll work just fine and this can be done from stock Windows

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                            #73

                            @Lunaphied Okay. But how?

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                            • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                              Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

                              Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

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                              #74

                              @briankrebs@infosec.exchange the new DiskDestroyer...

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                              • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

                                Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

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                                #75

                                Look, compromises happen to everyone. I have received a ton of private messages asking if I'm okay. But the reality is that I stopped using Windoze a long time ago and this was a kind of one-off thing where I was trying to re-image an old system anyway (away from Windoze).

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                                • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                  Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

                                  Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

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                                  #76

                                  @briankrebs I wonder if @torproject should know because Rufus is recommended to those who wish to install Tails from Windows:

                                  https://tails.net/install/windows/index.en.html

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                                  • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                    Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

                                    Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

                                    stella@mastodon.catgirl.cloudS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #77

                                    @briankrebs@infosec.exchange have you reported this on the rufus github repo?

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                                    • stella@mastodon.catgirl.cloudS stella@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                                      @briankrebs@infosec.exchange have you reported this on the rufus github repo?

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                                      #78

                                      @stella No. I reported it to everyone.

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                                      • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                        @stella No. I reported it to everyone.

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                                        #79

                                        @briankrebs@infosec.exchange …except the one place where its most likely to reach people who might be able to fix it?

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                                        • briankrebs@infosec.exchangeB briankrebs@infosec.exchange

                                          Not sure who needs to know this, but if you download and install the Windows version of Rufus, the free software for writing ISO images to USB/CD-ROM, your PC will end up with about 100 trojans.

                                          Edit: The site I downloaded from was rufus[.]ie which is apparently the official site. During installation, the software threw up a couple of rather verbose messages saying it needed to download additional components.

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                                          #80

                                          @simon @briankrebs Please what Rufus version does it apply to? The last I've used is 4.9, and the only thing it asked to download was some Secure Boot-related pieces.

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