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  3. So apparently #AI companies are buying old books at secondhand bookstores which aren't yet available in digital form, scan them in to feed their models, and then shred the books afterwards.

So apparently #AI companies are buying old books at secondhand bookstores which aren't yet available in digital form, scan them in to feed their models, and then shred the books afterwards.

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  • juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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    So apparently #AI companies are buying old books at secondhand bookstores which aren't yet available in digital form, scan them in to feed their models, and then shred the books afterwards.

    #books #bookstodon
    https://www.tagesschau.de/kultur/ki-firmen-antiquarische-buecher-100.html

    ashley@toots.nuA gurre@mastodon.nuG nathanmurdock@mastodon.socialN ianturton@mapstodon.spaceI matt@matts.networkM 5 Replies Last reply
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    • juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ juergen_hubert@mementomori.social

      So apparently #AI companies are buying old books at secondhand bookstores which aren't yet available in digital form, scan them in to feed their models, and then shred the books afterwards.

      #books #bookstodon
      https://www.tagesschau.de/kultur/ki-firmen-antiquarische-buecher-100.html

      ashley@toots.nuA This user is from outside of this forum
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      @juergen_hubert great, another wonderful contribution to society

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      • juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ juergen_hubert@mementomori.social

        So apparently #AI companies are buying old books at secondhand bookstores which aren't yet available in digital form, scan them in to feed their models, and then shred the books afterwards.

        #books #bookstodon
        https://www.tagesschau.de/kultur/ki-firmen-antiquarische-buecher-100.html

        gurre@mastodon.nuG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #3

        @juergen_hubert
        Actively destroying our collective memory, our collective cultural heritage.
        Fuck.

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        • juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ juergen_hubert@mementomori.social

          So apparently #AI companies are buying old books at secondhand bookstores which aren't yet available in digital form, scan them in to feed their models, and then shred the books afterwards.

          #books #bookstodon
          https://www.tagesschau.de/kultur/ki-firmen-antiquarische-buecher-100.html

          nathanmurdock@mastodon.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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          @juergen_hubert

          They can't use information that is already processed, so they need to get 'tasty' new human books. Not so sure why they would need to shred the books afterwards. That seems rather odd.

          juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ psneeze@mastodon.ieP 2 Replies Last reply
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          • nathanmurdock@mastodon.socialN nathanmurdock@mastodon.social

            @juergen_hubert

            They can't use information that is already processed, so they need to get 'tasty' new human books. Not so sure why they would need to shred the books afterwards. That seems rather odd.

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            #5

            @NathanMurdock

            Well, what use is an already-scanned book to _them_, after its information has been extracted?

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            • nathanmurdock@mastodon.socialN nathanmurdock@mastodon.social

              @juergen_hubert

              They can't use information that is already processed, so they need to get 'tasty' new human books. Not so sure why they would need to shred the books afterwards. That seems rather odd.

              psneeze@mastodon.ieP This user is from outside of this forum
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              @NathanMurdock @juergen_hubert The spines are cut off and the loose pages scanned via a sheet feeder. Rebinding, even if was possible, would be too costly.

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              • juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ juergen_hubert@mementomori.social

                So apparently #AI companies are buying old books at secondhand bookstores which aren't yet available in digital form, scan them in to feed their models, and then shred the books afterwards.

                #books #bookstodon
                https://www.tagesschau.de/kultur/ki-firmen-antiquarische-buecher-100.html

                ianturton@mapstodon.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
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                @juergen_hubert I can't remember which Sci-fi novel this is from, Vinge?

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                • gurre@mastodon.nuG gurre@mastodon.nu

                  @juergen_hubert
                  Actively destroying our collective memory, our collective cultural heritage.
                  Fuck.

                  datenhalde@nrw.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #8

                  @Gurre
                  Yeah, um, they destroy their copy of the book.

                  In Germany, we have the national library to whom you as a publisher have the obligation to provide copies of any printed product (books, magazines, even scientific proceedings...) for archiving. For cultural heritage reasons.
                  @juergen_hubert

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                  • ianturton@mapstodon.spaceI ianturton@mapstodon.space

                    @juergen_hubert I can't remember which Sci-fi novel this is from, Vinge?

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                    @juergen_hubert maybe Rainbows End?

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbows_End_(Vinge_novel)

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                    • juergen_hubert@mementomori.socialJ juergen_hubert@mementomori.social

                      So apparently #AI companies are buying old books at secondhand bookstores which aren't yet available in digital form, scan them in to feed their models, and then shred the books afterwards.

                      #books #bookstodon
                      https://www.tagesschau.de/kultur/ki-firmen-antiquarische-buecher-100.html

                      matt@matts.networkM This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @juergen_hubert If they don't want to pay to store the books afterwards they should probably be donating them to secondhand book shops 🤔

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