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  3. Amazon have reported "hundreds of thousands" of pictures of child sexual abuse material found in shared AI training data... but is refusing to tell regulators which data sets.

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  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

    Amazon have reported "hundreds of thousands" of pictures of child sexual abuse material found in shared AI training data... but is refusing to tell regulators which data sets.

    If you're using generative AI tools, there's a pretty good chance you're generating imagery with child porn training data behind the scenes.
    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-01-29/amazon-found-child-sex-abuse-in-ai-training-data

    gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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    #11

    As an aside, Microsoft had a publicly reported security incident a year or so ago where petabytes of data was left in a public Azure Storage Blob.

    What they didn't say - that petabytes of data was customer photos of animals they'd classified and taken for AI work, t'was some grads just exporting stuff. Good job everybody is preaching about Responsible AI(tm).

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    • drhyde@fosstodon.orgD drhyde@fosstodon.org

      @GossiTheDog @scottgal they say they're not training on it, it was detected before training. But that's not the point. Amazon got the stuff from somewhere, and a decent person would report where it came from so that the rozzers can trace it back upstream. I flat out don't believe Amazon's claim to not know where it came from, they must know, because they must have got copyright clearance for making a derivative work from all that content 😉

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      #12

      @DrHyde @GossiTheDog Oh yeah I get that, sorry. I don't understand the ramifications of their possession, the originator's (presumably continued possession) of now identified CSAM material...which means they would be legally required to remove and report the user.
      NO IDEA how they wouldn't have ANY moral qualms about NOT doing that nevermind what should be OBVIOUS legal liability (but corps are 'special' etc...)!

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      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

        @scottgal that doesn't mean using child sexual abuse material images to train AI is okay.

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        #13

        @GossiTheDog BUT certain types of AI it would be obviously. THOSE need to exist in a regulated way and made open source. Like current PII scrubbing models it's a public good but I don't know any commercial company who COULD do it. Orthogonal sorry but just occurred to me...how do you get those models?

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        • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

          Amazon have reported "hundreds of thousands" of pictures of child sexual abuse material found in shared AI training data... but is refusing to tell regulators which data sets.

          If you're using generative AI tools, there's a pretty good chance you're generating imagery with child porn training data behind the scenes.
          https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-01-29/amazon-found-child-sex-abuse-in-ai-training-data

          moses_izumi@fe.disroot.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #14
          In my country, the abbreviation CP only means cerebral palsy.

          Med andra ord är GenAI-branschen fullständigt CP-skadad.

          RE: https://cyberplace.social/@GossiTheDog/115978385132170439
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          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

            Amazon have reported "hundreds of thousands" of pictures of child sexual abuse material found in shared AI training data... but is refusing to tell regulators which data sets.

            If you're using generative AI tools, there's a pretty good chance you're generating imagery with child porn training data behind the scenes.
            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-01-29/amazon-found-child-sex-abuse-in-ai-training-data

            mrundkvist@archaeo.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #15

            @GossiTheDog
            Another headline here might be "Amazon admits in public to possessing a huge volume of child pornography".

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            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

              Amazon have reported "hundreds of thousands" of pictures of child sexual abuse material found in shared AI training data... but is refusing to tell regulators which data sets.

              If you're using generative AI tools, there's a pretty good chance you're generating imagery with child porn training data behind the scenes.
              https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-01-29/amazon-found-child-sex-abuse-in-ai-training-data

              jmcrookston@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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              #16

              @GossiTheDog

              What? Hand curation of trillions of issues didn't work?

              I'm shocked ayes tell ya, shocked!

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              • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                As an aside, Microsoft had a publicly reported security incident a year or so ago where petabytes of data was left in a public Azure Storage Blob.

                What they didn't say - that petabytes of data was customer photos of animals they'd classified and taken for AI work, t'was some grads just exporting stuff. Good job everybody is preaching about Responsible AI(tm).

                masek@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                #17

                @GossiTheDog I would expect that they harvest open (no auth, indexable) S3 buckets for AI training.

                And you probably know what you find there ....

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                • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                  Amazon have reported "hundreds of thousands" of pictures of child sexual abuse material found in shared AI training data... but is refusing to tell regulators which data sets.

                  If you're using generative AI tools, there's a pretty good chance you're generating imagery with child porn training data behind the scenes.
                  https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-01-29/amazon-found-child-sex-abuse-in-ai-training-data

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                  #18

                  @GossiTheDog@cyberplace.social Sounds like police should be arresting and charging people at Amazon, then.

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                  • masek@infosec.exchangeM masek@infosec.exchange

                    @GossiTheDog I would expect that they harvest open (no auth, indexable) S3 buckets for AI training.

                    And you probably know what you find there ....

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                    #19

                    @masek @GossiTheDog But have they plundered Amazon S3 customer data, that the customers had set as private ?

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                    • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                      Amazon have reported "hundreds of thousands" of pictures of child sexual abuse material found in shared AI training data... but is refusing to tell regulators which data sets.

                      If you're using generative AI tools, there's a pretty good chance you're generating imagery with child porn training data behind the scenes.
                      https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-01-29/amazon-found-child-sex-abuse-in-ai-training-data

                      sassinake@mastodon.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #20

                      @GossiTheDog

                      well there's your Epstein files right there!

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                      • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                        Amazon have reported "hundreds of thousands" of pictures of child sexual abuse material found in shared AI training data... but is refusing to tell regulators which data sets.

                        If you're using generative AI tools, there's a pretty good chance you're generating imagery with child porn training data behind the scenes.
                        https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-01-29/amazon-found-child-sex-abuse-in-ai-training-data

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                        #21

                        @GossiTheDog I’m starting to worry that these insanely powerful black box systems have some flaws

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                        • imbrium_photography@mastodon.socialI imbrium_photography@mastodon.social

                          @masek @GossiTheDog But have they plundered Amazon S3 customer data, that the customers had set as private ?

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                          #22

                          @imbrium_photography I would not rule it out. But there is already plenty "not set private but really private" data in open S3 buckets.

                          A colleague once found the financial data on a large part of a country in such bucket (plus a copy from their ID card.

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                          • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                            Amazon have reported "hundreds of thousands" of pictures of child sexual abuse material found in shared AI training data... but is refusing to tell regulators which data sets.

                            If you're using generative AI tools, there's a pretty good chance you're generating imagery with child porn training data behind the scenes.
                            https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-01-29/amazon-found-child-sex-abuse-in-ai-training-data

                            mast0d0nphan@beige.partyM This user is from outside of this forum
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                            #23

                            @GossiTheDog Cool. If you continue to buy from Amazon, read off Kindle, buy from Whole Foods, and obtain AWS certifications, among other Amazon-owned things, YOU ARE SUPPORTING PEDOPHILIA AND PEDOPHILES!

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                            • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                              Amazon have reported "hundreds of thousands" of pictures of child sexual abuse material found in shared AI training data... but is refusing to tell regulators which data sets.

                              If you're using generative AI tools, there's a pretty good chance you're generating imagery with child porn training data behind the scenes.
                              https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-01-29/amazon-found-child-sex-abuse-in-ai-training-data

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                              #24

                              @GossiTheDog Sounds very illegal to me, knowing of a crime and keeping info from the law (who this concerns, not some vague ‘regulators’)

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                              • troed@swecyb.comT troed@swecyb.com

                                @GossiTheDog this sounds pretty unbelievable tbh. LAION having "thousands" was a big public thing forcing re-release of the dataset. Others just piling on after this was discovered with no detection algorithms having been used??

                                Amazon should really publish this information.

                                https://petapixel.com/2024/09/03/major-ai-image-dataset-is-back-online-after-being-pulled-over-csam-laion-5b/

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                                #25

                                @troed @GossiTheDog plot twist of the year would be if the "dataset" they're talking about turned out to be "any image file uploaded to an S3 bucket between 2022 and today" 😬

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                                • wall_e@ioc.exchangeW wall_e@ioc.exchange

                                  @troed @GossiTheDog plot twist of the year would be if the "dataset" they're talking about turned out to be "any image file uploaded to an S3 bucket between 2022 and today" 😬

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                                  #26

                                  @wall_e

                                  _That_ I could believe!

                                  @GossiTheDog

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                                  • gossithedog@cyberplace.socialG gossithedog@cyberplace.social

                                    Amazon have reported "hundreds of thousands" of pictures of child sexual abuse material found in shared AI training data... but is refusing to tell regulators which data sets.

                                    If you're using generative AI tools, there's a pretty good chance you're generating imagery with child porn training data behind the scenes.
                                    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2026-01-29/amazon-found-child-sex-abuse-in-ai-training-data

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                                    #27

                                    @GossiTheDog I didn't have "CSAM at scale is unavoidable" on my 2026 bingo card.

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                                    • imbrium_photography@mastodon.socialI imbrium_photography@mastodon.social

                                      @masek @GossiTheDog But have they plundered Amazon S3 customer data, that the customers had set as private ?

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                                      #28

                                      @imbrium_photography @masek @GossiTheDog - I like the word that you have used: "Plundered" Private Data that was set to privacy.

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                                      • drhyde@fosstodon.orgD drhyde@fosstodon.org

                                        @GossiTheDog @scottgal they say they're not training on it, it was detected before training. But that's not the point. Amazon got the stuff from somewhere, and a decent person would report where it came from so that the rozzers can trace it back upstream. I flat out don't believe Amazon's claim to not know where it came from, they must know, because they must have got copyright clearance for making a derivative work from all that content 😉

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                                        #29

                                        @DrHyde @GossiTheDog @scottgal - Or Plundered Data.

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                                        • scottgal@hachyderm.ioS scottgal@hachyderm.io

                                          @GossiTheDog BUT certain types of AI it would be obviously. THOSE need to exist in a regulated way and made open source. Like current PII scrubbing models it's a public good but I don't know any commercial company who COULD do it. Orthogonal sorry but just occurred to me...how do you get those models?

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                                          #30

                                          @scottgal @GossiTheDog 👍

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