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thinking about how there's a true solution to the trolley problem and union workers were the ones to point it out

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  • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

    thinking about how there's a true solution to the trolley problem and union workers were the ones to point it out

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    #35

    @SnoopJ go unions

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    • zakalwe@plasmatrap.comZ zakalwe@plasmatrap.com

      @SnoopJ@hachyderm.io RIGHT!!!! Exactly! It's the obvious solution with a moment's thought: Use the switch to derail the trolley.

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      #36

      @zakalwe @SnoopJ I love how specific this one is though in explaining the exact method to be used to conduct a derailment. Something "only" union workers who know how things work on the ground can come up with!

      (I know it's not "only" but y'know what I mean)

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      • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

        thinking about how there's a true solution to the trolley problem and union workers were the ones to point it out

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        #37

        @SnoopJ But flip it in the direction of the 1 person because if it fails to stop that's still the right answer.

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        • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

          @dpiponi yes! simply reject the premise of the test 🤘

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          #38

          @SnoopJ @dpiponi as in war games tic Tac toe (and 2026), only way to not lose is to quit playing

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          • mikal@sfba.socialM mikal@sfba.social

            @SnoopJ

            I love this. Lateral thinking, in this case by very practically minded people who understand the real world mechanics, allows for the rejection of a problem set up by someone who has some hidden agenda.

            If presented with two bad choices, pick the third.

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            #39

            @Mikal I couldn't resist!

            (I can share the SVG source if anyone wants to remix. The font is Almendra)

            @SnoopJ

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            • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

              thinking about how there's a true solution to the trolley problem and union workers were the ones to point it out

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              #40

              @SnoopJ i've long said the answer to the trolley problem is to find the guy who keeps tying people to the tracks and shoot him dead

              i like this too though

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              • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                thinking about how there's a true solution to the trolley problem and union workers were the ones to point it out

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                #41

                @SnoopJ but then it does this:

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w55UaHDvrFk

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                • senil@gts.social.senil.meS senil@gts.social.senil.me

                  @SnoopJ how do we know this wouldn't happen, though?

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                  #42

                  @senil @SnoopJ the first thing that came to my mind. "Kill'em all approach".

                  Tbf, this is not possible with a shirt trolley, but with a longer railway waggon....

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                  • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                    Glad y'all like the theme, muting this now that it's escaped containment and the tedious "well actually" killjoys have arrived

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                    #43

                    @SnoopJ The Kobayashi Maru solution should always be a valid choice!

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                    • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                      thinking about how there's a true solution to the trolley problem and union workers were the ones to point it out

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                      #44

                      @SnoopJ plot twist: trolley has turntable wheels like all modern trains and the front axis goes on one rail while the trolley is diagonally hanging to the second track. Everyone gets killed.

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                      • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

                        @SnoopJ Or it sends it into a tumble and you manage to kill everyone...including yourself as your attempt causes a massive force feedback that slams the switch against you, cutting you in half with pressure force.

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                        #45

                        @crazyeddie @SnoopJ In which case it is no longer your problem.

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                        • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                          thinking about how there's a true solution to the trolley problem and union workers were the ones to point it out

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                          #46

                          @SnoopJ ... killing everyone aboard

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                          • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                            thinking about how there's a true solution to the trolley problem and union workers were the ones to point it out

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                            #47

                            @SnoopJ

                            I must echo the reference to the trolley ending up running over both tracks at the same time successfully.

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                            • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                              @SnoopJ

                              Isn't that the same thing all of the "drift the trolley across both tracks to hit everyone" are suggesting?

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                              #48

                              @agowa338 an ideal solution if it takes out people who pose trolley problems

                              @SnoopJ

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                              • bweller@mstdn.socialB bweller@mstdn.social

                                @agowa338 an ideal solution if it takes out people who pose trolley problems

                                @SnoopJ

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                                #49

                                @bweller @SnoopJ

                                As if the people proposing it would be chained to the track.

                                They're standing where the picture is being taken from...

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                                • agowa338@chaos.socialA agowa338@chaos.social

                                  @bweller @SnoopJ

                                  As if the people proposing it would be chained to the track.

                                  They're standing where the picture is being taken from...

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                                  #50

                                  @agowa338 we're gonna need a bigger train

                                  @SnoopJ

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                                  • M mbeverding@mastodon.social

                                    @SnoopJ plot twist: trolley has turntable wheels like all modern trains and the front axis goes on one rail while the trolley is diagonally hanging to the second track. Everyone gets killed.

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                                    #51

                                    @MBEverding @SnoopJ Including any passengers on the trolley after it derails. The maximally destructive option.

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                                    • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                                      thinking about how there's a true solution to the trolley problem and union workers were the ones to point it out

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                                      #52

                                      @SnoopJ
                                      As I recall from my HO scale model trains, just leaving the switch idling between the two positions will do it too. The first axle to reach it will be dumped on the ground, possibly getting hung up on the frog on the way over. The results will always be suboptimal to say the least

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                                      • snoopj@hachyderm.ioS snoopj@hachyderm.io

                                        thinking about how there's a true solution to the trolley problem and union workers were the ones to point it out

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                                        #53

                                        @SnoopJ
                                        which means, the people inside the trolley will be sacrificed

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                                        • senil@gts.social.senil.meS senil@gts.social.senil.me

                                          @SnoopJ how do we know this wouldn't happen, though?

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                                          #54

                                          @senil @SnoopJ This is also a valid solution: "If you cause the death of someone, at least leave no witnesses."

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