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  • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

    The US is no longer our closest ally, said Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen of Denmark in tonight's tv debate in the Danish general elections.

    Only two years ago this would have been an unthinkable remark from a member of the Danish administration.

    But tonight Frederiksen said it and elaborated, The Nordics, Canada, Germany, France, and the UK were our closest allies.

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    #21

    @randahl Given Trump is now threatening to destroy NATO if it doesn't do what he demands, I certainly understand the fear.

    Is the new joke "We've always been allies with east asia"?

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      #22

      @Su_G @randahl

      ...unfortunately we are politically in lock step with the US, so that is heavy with risk. Maybe we need to separate people of... and government of... 🤔

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        #23

        @Su_G if you send some more of those fine Australian Bushmaster PMVs to Ukraine, we can talk about it. 😀

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        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

          @Su_G if you send some more of those fine Australian Bushmaster PMVs to Ukraine, we can talk about it. 😀

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          #24

          @randahl @Su_G As an Aussie, I vote for sending more.

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          • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

            The US is no longer our closest ally, said Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen of Denmark in tonight's tv debate in the Danish general elections.

            Only two years ago this would have been an unthinkable remark from a member of the Danish administration.

            But tonight Frederiksen said it and elaborated, The Nordics, Canada, Germany, France, and the UK were our closest allies.

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            #25

            @randahl Basically - she's saying everybody _except_ the US is now our closest allies 😄

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            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

              The US is no longer our closest ally, said Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen of Denmark in tonight's tv debate in the Danish general elections.

              Only two years ago this would have been an unthinkable remark from a member of the Danish administration.

              But tonight Frederiksen said it and elaborated, The Nordics, Canada, Germany, France, and the UK were our closest allies.

              leeloo@c.imL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #26

              @randahl
              She realized?

              At this point, that's like saying that Russia is no longer Ukraines closest ally a few years ago.

              Also, the UK? Aren't they competing with the US in the speedrun to fascism?

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              • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                The US is no longer our closest ally, said Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen of Denmark in tonight's tv debate in the Danish general elections.

                Only two years ago this would have been an unthinkable remark from a member of the Danish administration.

                But tonight Frederiksen said it and elaborated, The Nordics, Canada, Germany, France, and the UK were our closest allies.

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                #27

                @randahl

                Randahl Fink

                The US is no longer our closest ally, said Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen of Denmark

                The usa is a liability not an ally would have been more fitting.

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                • leeloo@c.imL leeloo@c.im

                  @randahl
                  She realized?

                  At this point, that's like saying that Russia is no longer Ukraines closest ally a few years ago.

                  Also, the UK? Aren't they competing with the US in the speedrun to fascism?

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                  #28

                  @leeloo @randahl

                  Billionaires are certainly trying. And the FPTP system makes us quite vulnerable. On the other hand, unlike the US, we have real parties on the left. Our nominally left-wing party in government has been gradually moving to the right to the point that they look like late ‘80s Conservatives now. They thought that their biggest threat was losing votes on the right, but they just came third in a by-election with the newer left-wing party winning and the far-right party coming a fairly distant second. A poll over the weekend showed that, if only men under the age of 25 voted, we’d have a majority-Green (left wing) government in the next election, which contradicts the ‘young men are all right wing’ narrative that has been driving a lot of political strategy.

                  So, yes, we’re currently moving in the stupid direction, but there are signs that we may be able to course correct before it’s too late. Our far-right party (Reform Ltd) has been trying to portray itself as British MAGA, but now it’s increasingly obvious what a disaster MAGA has been in the USA, that’s far less compelling even to the racists.

                  We have local elections in May, which will give a strong signal of the direction of travel. And we still have several years until the next election, which is hopefully enough time for the disaster that is Trump to be inescapable and for Reform to be associated in everyone’s mind with the same kleptocracy that backed him.

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                  • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                    @leeloo @randahl

                    Billionaires are certainly trying. And the FPTP system makes us quite vulnerable. On the other hand, unlike the US, we have real parties on the left. Our nominally left-wing party in government has been gradually moving to the right to the point that they look like late ‘80s Conservatives now. They thought that their biggest threat was losing votes on the right, but they just came third in a by-election with the newer left-wing party winning and the far-right party coming a fairly distant second. A poll over the weekend showed that, if only men under the age of 25 voted, we’d have a majority-Green (left wing) government in the next election, which contradicts the ‘young men are all right wing’ narrative that has been driving a lot of political strategy.

                    So, yes, we’re currently moving in the stupid direction, but there are signs that we may be able to course correct before it’s too late. Our far-right party (Reform Ltd) has been trying to portray itself as British MAGA, but now it’s increasingly obvious what a disaster MAGA has been in the USA, that’s far less compelling even to the racists.

                    We have local elections in May, which will give a strong signal of the direction of travel. And we still have several years until the next election, which is hopefully enough time for the disaster that is Trump to be inescapable and for Reform to be associated in everyone’s mind with the same kleptocracy that backed him.

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                    #29

                    @david_chisnall @randahl
                    Well, here's to hope and good luck.

                    May the golf maggot find that Putin is his only ally.

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                    • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                      The US is no longer our closest ally, said Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen of Denmark in tonight's tv debate in the Danish general elections.

                      Only two years ago this would have been an unthinkable remark from a member of the Danish administration.

                      But tonight Frederiksen said it and elaborated, The Nordics, Canada, Germany, France, and the UK were our closest allies.

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                      #30

                      @randahl

                      It is good that in Europe we still can speak the truth… we should do it more as the second economy on this world.

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                      • wonshu@mastodon.socialW wonshu@mastodon.social

                        @randahl I really hope that it's "the US under this administration" and they come to their senses in the US and we all can be friends with them again. 😢

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                        #31

                        @wonshu @randahl don't you worry. Even germany got it on that list.

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                        • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                          The US is no longer our closest ally, said Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen of Denmark in tonight's tv debate in the Danish general elections.

                          Only two years ago this would have been an unthinkable remark from a member of the Danish administration.

                          But tonight Frederiksen said it and elaborated, The Nordics, Canada, Germany, France, and the UK were our closest allies.

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                          #32

                          @randahl Given that the UK is very much in Trump's pocket, Finland is doing cartwheels to please Trump, and Spain is openly standing up against him, this list of close allies is a little depressing

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                          • david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD david_chisnall@infosec.exchange

                            @leeloo @randahl

                            Billionaires are certainly trying. And the FPTP system makes us quite vulnerable. On the other hand, unlike the US, we have real parties on the left. Our nominally left-wing party in government has been gradually moving to the right to the point that they look like late ‘80s Conservatives now. They thought that their biggest threat was losing votes on the right, but they just came third in a by-election with the newer left-wing party winning and the far-right party coming a fairly distant second. A poll over the weekend showed that, if only men under the age of 25 voted, we’d have a majority-Green (left wing) government in the next election, which contradicts the ‘young men are all right wing’ narrative that has been driving a lot of political strategy.

                            So, yes, we’re currently moving in the stupid direction, but there are signs that we may be able to course correct before it’s too late. Our far-right party (Reform Ltd) has been trying to portray itself as British MAGA, but now it’s increasingly obvious what a disaster MAGA has been in the USA, that’s far less compelling even to the racists.

                            We have local elections in May, which will give a strong signal of the direction of travel. And we still have several years until the next election, which is hopefully enough time for the disaster that is Trump to be inescapable and for Reform to be associated in everyone’s mind with the same kleptocracy that backed him.

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                            #33

                            @david_chisnall @leeloo @randahl Looking forward to the day UK returns to EU.

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                            • randahl@mastodon.socialR randahl@mastodon.social

                              The US is no longer our closest ally, said Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen of Denmark in tonight's tv debate in the Danish general elections.

                              Only two years ago this would have been an unthinkable remark from a member of the Danish administration.

                              But tonight Frederiksen said it and elaborated, The Nordics, Canada, Germany, France, and the UK were our closest allies.

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                              #34

                              @randahl

                              Friends don’t let friends buy F-35As.

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